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  3. i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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    @eniko I want coder teams to be teams again who go Kegeln at the end of the day...

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    @eniko And people who actually know what they are doing.

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      @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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      @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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        @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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        @svelmoe @daviddoes @eniko If what I'm after is an experience, sure I would!

        If what I'm after is a toaster or a washing machine or a lamp, I don't particularly want an "experience".

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          @eniko That, and also I'd want internet-connected applications out of things where they have no sane reason to be.

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          @datarama @eniko

          100%! Why does my fridge need contacts and calendars?

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            @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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            @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I don't because Apps generate extra costs and why should I pay more to save the manufacturer money.

            Fuck 'em.

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              @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

              As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

              #software #softwaredevelopment

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              @badtux
              I think there's enough work refactoring, cleaning up code, fixing old bugs, improving the testsuite, etc. that a same-sized team could do it for years without adding new features.
              @eniko

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place I agree. Applications shouldn't be small small, but just have one topic around them.

                I don't need to micro manage everything but I dont want wechat like mega apps

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                  @eniko I also want the updates to spend more time in UAT/Staging instead of being pushed straight into production.

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                    @eniko So say we all. Or at least any of us with any sense.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                      @eniko can we also go back to calling them "programs" not "apps"? Or am I alone in that peeve?

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                        More true every year @eniko

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                          @eniko can we also go back to calling them "programs" not "apps"? Or am I alone in that peeve?

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                          I'd be happy to compromise at “application” because that's a more narrow, accurate term for what they are @bencourtice.

                          I'm also glad that the obvious power grab by Apple, to call them “app” and then attempt to claim an “app store” can only be owned by Apple, has failed.

                          @eniko

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                            @eniko @carol https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

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                              @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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                              @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I do not only want my toaster to be part of a botnet, I want my toaster to not have electronics AT ALL.

                              There is no reason for my fridge, toaster or oven to have a microcontroller. Really, we've been doing these things a century and today we seem to default to adding microcontrollers to everything.

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                @eniko
                                isnt þe unix philosophy "every program should do one job and do it well"? can we just make þat law? i would love a world where every program solved / did one þing i wanted and nþn else.

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                  @eniko This reminds me of one of the favorite apps on my phone: Animated Knots by Grog.

                                  https://apps.apple.com/de/app/animated-knots-by-grog/id376302649
                                  It has detailed explanations of almost 200 knots, and animations on how to tie all of them.

                                  It hasn’t been updated for years, because it’s basically done. I bought it once for the price of a coffee, and now I just use it whenever I need something more than my 3 standard knots.

                                  (I have dyslexia-but-for-ropes, and this is the only way I can learn new knots.)

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                    @eniko Preach.

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                      @eniko this sounds exactly like my kinda job (well except the paid part)

                                      *Looks at my projects which have an update every few months with few features*

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                        @eniko I can switch on a BBC micro and load View in less time than I can wake my Windows 11 laptop and load MS Word. Seems that the faster computers become; the longer it takes to do the same things with them.

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                          @eniko +9001%
                                          I want smaller, auditable, reproduceable and simple systems!

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