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  • ? Gast

    Have you seen this news?

    #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

    So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

    Im so excited about this.

    Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

    Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

    #E2EE

    https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

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    @benpate oh hey look its Peak being Added to Mastodon 😄

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      @benpate oh hey look its Peak being Added to Mastodon 😄

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      @RetroHax I'm not familiar with Peak, but yeah, there are a ton of encrypted messengers out there. I'm also on Signal and Matrix, each for different purposes.

      The good news about this is that it brings this feature to the network we're already using. No change in behavior.. one day, your messages just become a little more private.

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        @RetroHax I'm not familiar with Peak, but yeah, there are a ton of encrypted messengers out there. I'm also on Signal and Matrix, each for different purposes.

        The good news about this is that it brings this feature to the network we're already using. No change in behavior.. one day, your messages just become a little more private.

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        @benpate XD I meant it more so as a Word of Describing STuff and not the Video Game 😛
        Like using Peak as another Word for saying "Cool Feature" or so 😛

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        • ? Gast

          Have you seen this news?

          #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

          So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

          Im so excited about this.

          Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

          Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

          #E2EE

          https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

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          #21

          Whenever they write the Wikipedia article about E2EE, I just want a footnote in there...

          #Mastodon was the artillery, the big guns that made the difference. #Bonfire and #Emissary were the special forces recon teams that made it possible.

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            @benpate XD I meant it more so as a Word of Describing STuff and not the Video Game 😛
            Like using Peak as another Word for saying "Cool Feature" or so 😛

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            @RetroHax

            Well that explains why my google searches looked so weird.

            Yes, I'm old. You kids with your funny words... 😅

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              Whenever they write the Wikipedia article about E2EE, I just want a footnote in there...

              #Mastodon was the artillery, the big guns that made the difference. #Bonfire and #Emissary were the special forces recon teams that made it possible.

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              @benpate e2ee on fedi?

              Uh.

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                @benpate e2ee on fedi?

                Uh.

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                @jens

                Yes. We're launching in June. Mastodon is building in 2027.

                It's a whole new Fedi.

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                  @jens

                  Yes. We're launching in June. Mastodon is building in 2027.

                  It's a whole new Fedi.

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                  @benpate Specs?

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                  • ? Gast

                    Have you seen this news?

                    #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                    So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                    Im so excited about this.

                    Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                    Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                    #E2EE

                    https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

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                    @benpate that's great news! 😃

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                      @benpate Specs?

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                      @jens

                      The primary spec for ActivityPub is here: https://swicg.github.io/activitypub-e2ee/mls

                      I have a project overview here: https://emissary.dev/e2ee <- this also includes links to the MLS protocol and other implementation resources.

                      My overview page WAS up to date, but I haven't posted much recently. But I *swear* I'm still making progress.

                      I'll show off a little of my work at #FediForum - and I'm sure we'll have larger conversations there about #E2EE in general.

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                        @jens

                        The primary spec for ActivityPub is here: https://swicg.github.io/activitypub-e2ee/mls

                        I have a project overview here: https://emissary.dev/e2ee <- this also includes links to the MLS protocol and other implementation resources.

                        My overview page WAS up to date, but I haven't posted much recently. But I *swear* I'm still making progress.

                        I'll show off a little of my work at #FediForum - and I'm sure we'll have larger conversations there about #E2EE in general.

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                        @benpate MLS, OK. Fair enough.

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                          @benpate MLS, OK. Fair enough.

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                          @jens Yeah, the MLS protocol is pretty solid. It's built/supported by a number of big industry groups who know what they're doing.

                          And, I'm not writing the encryption myself. I'm building on top of the *fabulous* ts-mls library by Luka Jacobowitz. He's been super-supportive and even helped me troubleshoot a few things.

                          I'm pretty sure Bonfire is using OpenMLS, which is equally awesome.

                          When Mastodon starts working in 2027, a lot of the groundwork will have been laid already.

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                            @jens Yeah, the MLS protocol is pretty solid. It's built/supported by a number of big industry groups who know what they're doing.

                            And, I'm not writing the encryption myself. I'm building on top of the *fabulous* ts-mls library by Luka Jacobowitz. He's been super-supportive and even helped me troubleshoot a few things.

                            I'm pretty sure Bonfire is using OpenMLS, which is equally awesome.

                            When Mastodon starts working in 2027, a lot of the groundwork will have been laid already.

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                            @benpate MLS is a step in the right direction, for sure.

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                              @jens

                              The primary spec for ActivityPub is here: https://swicg.github.io/activitypub-e2ee/mls

                              I have a project overview here: https://emissary.dev/e2ee <- this also includes links to the MLS protocol and other implementation resources.

                              My overview page WAS up to date, but I haven't posted much recently. But I *swear* I'm still making progress.

                              I'll show off a little of my work at #FediForum - and I'm sure we'll have larger conversations there about #E2EE in general.

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                              @jens

                              Here's a screenshot from my laptop this morning. It's a pretty good view of where I am on this project right now with #Emissary. "Please ignore my silly cats"

                              I've seen Bonfire's work, and they're even further along.

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                              • ? Gast

                                Have you seen this news?

                                #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                                So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                                Im so excited about this.

                                Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                                Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                                #E2EE

                                https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

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                                @benpate @mattblaze You may be interested in this.

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                                  @jens

                                  Here's a screenshot from my laptop this morning. It's a pretty good view of where I am on this project right now with #Emissary. "Please ignore my silly cats"

                                  I've seen Bonfire's work, and they're even further along.

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                                  @benpate Scanned the specs.

                                  Yeah, that's about how I'd have done it in AP. But the result is like encrypted email, metadata is still public.

                                  That's more or less why I stopped looking at AP as a viable transport. But if you need to stay within it, then yes, looks reasonable.

                                  I haven't looked in a lot of detail, obviously.

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                                    @benpate Scanned the specs.

                                    Yeah, that's about how I'd have done it in AP. But the result is like encrypted email, metadata is still public.

                                    That's more or less why I stopped looking at AP as a viable transport. But if you need to stay within it, then yes, looks reasonable.

                                    I haven't looked in a lot of detail, obviously.

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                                    @jens

                                    Yes.

                                    My understanding of MLS is that there is a fair amount of metadata that's public in general. So, group ids, and members of each group are more or less in plaintext, regardless of the transport.

                                    So, it's not *perfect* but it's better than just sending everything in plaintext.

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                                      Have you seen this news?

                                      #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                                      So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                                      Im so excited about this.

                                      Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                                      Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                                      #E2EE

                                      https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

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                                      @benpate

                                      since it is being funded by the German government, will it have backdoors for specific German priorities?

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                                        Whenever they write the Wikipedia article about E2EE, I just want a footnote in there...

                                        #Mastodon was the artillery, the big guns that made the difference. #Bonfire and #Emissary were the special forces recon teams that made it possible.

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                                        @benpate I wouldn't count on that.

                                        In the announcement Mastodon team credits SWF for work on E2EE, not the people doing actual research. That's part of the deal.

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                                          @jens

                                          Yes.

                                          My understanding of MLS is that there is a fair amount of metadata that's public in general. So, group ids, and members of each group are more or less in plaintext, regardless of the transport.

                                          So, it's not *perfect* but it's better than just sending everything in plaintext.

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                                          @benpate Oh yeah, exactly that.

                                          In a green field design, you can encrypt almost all metadata, and make the rest sufficiently anonymized.

                                          Sadly, that isn't going to integrate well with AP.

                                          Ah, well.

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