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  3. Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants".

Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants".

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    @Codeberg yeah, but "If you do not contribute to any free/libre software project at all, Codeberg is unfortunately not the right place for you."

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    @magicmarcy @Codeberg The infrastructure is free-to-use, but comes at the "cost" of giving back to the community - those are indeed our house rules, and this is how we use non-profit (donated) money as per our statutes.

    Besides, other platforms are more monetarily expensive and don't offer you the entire source code under a free and open-source license to self-host if you don't agree with their price, right?

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      @magicmarcy @Codeberg The infrastructure is free-to-use, but comes at the "cost" of giving back to the community - those are indeed our house rules, and this is how we use non-profit (donated) money as per our statutes.

      Besides, other platforms are more monetarily expensive and don't offer you the entire source code under a free and open-source license to self-host if you don't agree with their price, right?

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      @magicmarcy @Codeberg P.S. The point you're trying to make under a post speaking out against slopification is undermined in my eyes due to the profile picture, unfortunately.

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        @magicmarcy @Codeberg The infrastructure is free-to-use, but comes at the "cost" of giving back to the community - those are indeed our house rules, and this is how we use non-profit (donated) money as per our statutes.

        Besides, other platforms are more monetarily expensive and don't offer you the entire source code under a free and open-source license to self-host if you don't agree with their price, right?

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        @n0toose @Codeberg Yes, that's all correct - I simply wanted to point out that a false comparison is being made here, as the goals and orientation are completely different. Codeberg is not a profit-oriented company – that's the difference.

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          @magicmarcy @Codeberg P.S. The point you're trying to make under a post speaking out against slopification is undermined in my eyes due to the profile picture, unfortunately.

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          @n0toose @Codeberg Shots fired... well played ... but you didn't understand the point.

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            @n0toose @Codeberg Yes, that's all correct - I simply wanted to point out that a false comparison is being made here, as the goals and orientation are completely different. Codeberg is not a profit-oriented company – that's the difference.

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            @magicmarcy @Codeberg We don't see ourselves as "a GitHub alternative" because we play by different rules for the benefit of free and open-source projects, and that is what we market ourselves with (and that was the goal we were trying to make).

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            • n0toose@chaos.socialN n0toose@chaos.social

              @magicmarcy @Codeberg We don't see ourselves as "a GitHub alternative" because we play by different rules for the benefit of free and open-source projects, and that is what we market ourselves with (and that was the goal we were trying to make).

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              @n0toose @Codeberg Yes, I understand that - but using GitHub's negative aspect to draw attention to oneself when offering something completely different is, in my opinion, the wrong approach.

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                @n0toose @Codeberg Yes, I understand that - but using GitHub's negative aspect to draw attention to oneself when offering something completely different is, in my opinion, the wrong approach.

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                @magicmarcy @Codeberg One might say that they offer highly-processed corn flakes with chocolate chips and lots of added sugar, we offer muesli. We know that some will continue preferring the former instead of muesli (not everyone might want to eat that instead), but we can talk about how you might want to pick something with less added sugar and that we offer that.

                Hm, if I weren't as tired I could've brought on "slop" into the comparison. Eh, whatever.

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                • codeberg@social.anoxinon.deC codeberg@social.anoxinon.de

                  Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants". (We don't.)

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                  @Codeberg *giggle*

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                  • ? Gast

                    @n0toose @Codeberg Yes, I understand that - but using GitHub's negative aspect to draw attention to oneself when offering something completely different is, in my opinion, the wrong approach.

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                    @magicmarcy @n0toose @Codeberg I don't know what shenanigans both of you are up to, but for me, codeberg is an alternative to github, and that seems pretty clear actually. The main pupose of these services being hosting git repositories.

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                    • codeberg@social.anoxinon.deC codeberg@social.anoxinon.de

                      Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants". (We don't.)

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                      @Codeberg Thanks! The more I use your service the more I like it. Not just for the reasons at hand but also for technical reasons. Thank you for being awesome!

                      Will be moving the rest of my open source projects to your platform. 🙏

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                      • n0toose@chaos.socialN n0toose@chaos.social

                        @magicmarcy @Codeberg One might say that they offer highly-processed corn flakes with chocolate chips and lots of added sugar, we offer muesli. We know that some will continue preferring the former instead of muesli (not everyone might want to eat that instead), but we can talk about how you might want to pick something with less added sugar and that we offer that.

                        Hm, if I weren't as tired I could've brought on "slop" into the comparison. Eh, whatever.

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                        @n0toose

                        don’t feed the trolls. That was a great newsflash, and I so love what you do.

                        @magicmarcy @Codeberg

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                        • codeberg@social.anoxinon.deC codeberg@social.anoxinon.de

                          Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants". (We don't.)

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                          @Codeberg Let me guess... This is a little jab towards GitHub and their update mail?
                          (I got such a mail and went to disable everything I could related to AI. Sadly quite a few options seem to be forced to enable with no disable option...)

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                          • codeberg@social.anoxinon.deC codeberg@social.anoxinon.de

                            Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants". (We don't.)

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                            @Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de thank you! Saw this after reading gh's email earlier

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                            • codeberg@social.anoxinon.deC codeberg@social.anoxinon.de

                              Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants". (We don't.)

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                              @Codeberg This is the best sort of ToS and AUP update.

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                              • codeberg@social.anoxinon.deC codeberg@social.anoxinon.de

                                Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants". (We don't.)

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                                @Codeberg I'm happy to see such a stance but it'd be nicer if there was some decision about what I proposed a few weeks ago.

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                                  Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants". (We don't.)

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                                  @Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de You don't have to CW positive news you know

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                                    @magicmarcy @n0toose @Codeberg I don't know what shenanigans both of you are up to, but for me, codeberg is an alternative to github, and that seems pretty clear actually. The main pupose of these services being hosting git repositories.

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                                    @ayba @magicmarcy @n0toose @Codeberg I second what this person said 😄

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                                      Newsflash: We're NOT updating how Codeberg uses data to improve "AI-powered coding assistants". (We don't.)

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                                      @Codeberg@social.anoxinon.de Good. If someone wants to do so, grab some code, and use it to train their own model, while not "happy" I have little problem with that. If a company hosting code, decides they want to do that, I have a problem with that.

                                      Of course, I use Forgejo myself, with my own instance. Because I got tired of moving from one platform to another...

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