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    @rysiek I am so glad I came to this article thanks to you! It manages to clearly state the worries I have as a test consultant in a world where no one seems to care about quality anymore, in a way I could never find the words for. I also learned about the term credence goods for the first time.

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    @maaikees I am glad you found it useful! And thank you for doing the important yet under-appreciated work of testing and quality assurance.

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      @rysiek@mstdn.social oof....

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      @luna

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        @afterdark @rysiek 😆

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        @britter @afterdark "frogjoe" is now a thing.

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          @rysiek I've been freeloading off GitLab too long. Tried self-hosting their open version of their software so I could pull my repos in-house but I didn't have the patience to sort out undocumented broken containers. This is the motivation I need to migrate everything to Codeberg and send them an ongoing donation to cover costs.

          GitLab worked well for me but my usage level never justified a paid account. Sad to see them spiral down the AI drain but it's been coming for a while.

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          @arclight @rysiek also consider @radicle
          p2p ftw

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            Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

            But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

            > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
            https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

            #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

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            @rysiek Et tu, Gitlab?

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              @arclight @rysiek also consider @radicle
              p2p ftw

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              @zeh @arclight @radicle as Git intended.

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                Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

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                @rysiek where are you heading too? Codeberg with Forgejo?

                #codeberg #forgejo

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                  Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                  But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                  > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                  https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                  #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

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                  @rysiek
                  If you liked #gitlab, you'll LOVE #Forgejo.

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                    @rysiek where are you heading too? Codeberg with Forgejo?

                    #codeberg #forgejo

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                    @kedMertens I self-host a GitLab instance, so I will probably deploy Forgejo instead.

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                      @kedMertens I self-host a GitLab instance, so I will probably deploy Forgejo instead.

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                      @rysiek awesome! Even though forced move. Very curious to hear from you about the migration experience.

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                        @rysiek time to move to frogejo 🤷‍♂️

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                        @britter @rysiek here for the frogejo 🐸 😁. Boing!

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                          @arclight @rysiek also consider @radicle
                          p2p ftw

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                          @zeh @arclight @rysiek @radicle 😃 thanks, learned something new today ❤️

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                            Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.

                            But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:

                            > Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
                            https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/

                            #GitLab #AI #FuckAI #SoftwareDevelopment

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                            @rysiek @frumble me too. We are currently too much invested in complex build pipelines and regulations procedures that. But we are definitely looking for alternatives in the longer run.

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                              @toxy it is.

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                              @rysiek @toxy If it is targeted at investors, they should have taken a look at the Cloudflare
                              share price. They lost 20% after announcing layoffs and some agentic AI
                              bullshit:

                              duckduckgo.com/?q=cloudflare+s…

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                                @rysiek @toxy If it is targeted at investors, they should have taken a look at the Cloudflare
                                share price. They lost 20% after announcing layoffs and some agentic AI
                                bullshit:

                                duckduckgo.com/?q=cloudflare+s…

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                                @pankraz @toxy yeah, investors are stopping rewarding companies for "AI layoffs" (they are never caused by "AI", but that's a separate thing)

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                                  The outcome of this will be *worse* software.

                                  It will feel even more plastic, it will be even more brittle, and it's not because we don't know how to write better, more reliable software, but because the industry decided that writing better software is not how money is made.

                                  And GitLab just went all-in, announced to the world: we're here for plastic software, we're here for shit quality code, we're here for forcing people to review unreviewable slop and then blaming them for the bugs.

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                                  @rysiek Codeberg for the people! The ability for technologists to jump ship and build their own distributed platforms scares the shit out of big tech.

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                                    @rysiek @toxy If it is targeted at investors, they should have taken a look at the Cloudflare
                                    share price. They lost 20% after announcing layoffs and some agentic AI
                                    bullshit:

                                    duckduckgo.com/?q=cloudflare+s…

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                                    @pankraz
                                    You're saying this, like investors behave rationally ^_^

                                    @rysiek @toxy

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                                      @rysiek @frumble me too. We are currently too much invested in complex build pipelines and regulations procedures that. But we are definitely looking for alternatives in the longer run.

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                                      @samueljohn

                                      Unfortunately there is only GitHub in close comparison. I don’t know anything else capable of being used for business when you want an integrated version control and CI/CD tool (so no Jenkins (🤢) here, whateverforgit there)

                                      If anybody knows an alternative please respond.

                                      @rysiek @frumble

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                                        @samueljohn

                                        Unfortunately there is only GitHub in close comparison. I don’t know anything else capable of being used for business when you want an integrated version control and CI/CD tool (so no Jenkins (🤢) here, whateverforgit there)

                                        If anybody knows an alternative please respond.

                                        @rysiek @frumble

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                                        @maschinentraum I will move to self-hosted Forgejo. Have you looked at Codeberg and SourceHut?

                                        @samueljohn @frumble

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                                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                          Software has been "built by machines, directed by people" for decades.

                                          That's what compilers and linkers do, that's what uncountable lines of Bash and endless CI/CD pipelines are – machines building software, directed by people.

                                          And for decades, the bottleneck has not been churning out code. It was code review, it was quality control, it was bug fixing. AI slop makes that *worse*, not better:
                                          https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/89367

                                          GitLab, and the rest of the industry, is solving for the wrong problem.

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                                          @rysiek Gitlab isn't solving a problem. They're optimizing based on near-term incentives.

                                          Right now, the investment money is all chummed with AI hype. If you want to see near-term valuation increase, you pivot to AI.

                                          It's just like in the '90s when anyone could say 'web' in a VC pitch and get funded.

                                          ... And just like in the early 00s, when that bubble bursts, some companies will have figured it out, and a lot of companies will fail catastrophically... and there will be people who redirected their entire career to align with what industry was asking for, who will left with difficult-to-market skills.

                                          And nothing is going to change, because every VC sees their investment as the next Amazon rather than the next Pets.com.

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