Welp.
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@kedMertens I self-host a GitLab instance, so I will probably deploy Forgejo instead.
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@kedMertens I self-host a GitLab instance, so I will probably deploy Forgejo instead.
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
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@toxy it is.
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The outcome of this will be *worse* software.
It will feel even more plastic, it will be even more brittle, and it's not because we don't know how to write better, more reliable software, but because the industry decided that writing better software is not how money is made.
And GitLab just went all-in, announced to the world: we're here for plastic software, we're here for shit quality code, we're here for forcing people to review unreviewable slop and then blaming them for the bugs.
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Unfortunately there is only GitHub in close comparison. I don’t know anything else capable of being used for business when you want an integrated version control and CI/CD tool (so no Jenkins (
) here, whateverforgit there)If anybody knows an alternative please respond.
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Unfortunately there is only GitHub in close comparison. I don’t know anything else capable of being used for business when you want an integrated version control and CI/CD tool (so no Jenkins (
) here, whateverforgit there)If anybody knows an alternative please respond.
@maschinentraum I will move to self-hosted Forgejo. Have you looked at Codeberg and SourceHut?
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Software has been "built by machines, directed by people" for decades.
That's what compilers and linkers do, that's what uncountable lines of Bash and endless CI/CD pipelines are – machines building software, directed by people.
And for decades, the bottleneck has not been churning out code. It was code review, it was quality control, it was bug fixing. AI slop makes that *worse*, not better:
https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/89367GitLab, and the rest of the industry, is solving for the wrong problem.
@rysiek Gitlab isn't solving a problem. They're optimizing based on near-term incentives.
Right now, the investment money is all chummed with AI hype. If you want to see near-term valuation increase, you pivot to AI.
It's just like in the '90s when anyone could say 'web' in a VC pitch and get funded.
... And just like in the early 00s, when that bubble bursts, some companies will have figured it out, and a lot of companies will fail catastrophically... and there will be people who redirected their entire career to align with what industry was asking for, who will left with difficult-to-market skills.
And nothing is going to change, because every VC sees their investment as the next Amazon rather than the next Pets.com.
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And if you've read that far and you're in IT, I have one word for you: unionize.
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@rysiek Gitlab isn't solving a problem. They're optimizing based on near-term incentives.
Right now, the investment money is all chummed with AI hype. If you want to see near-term valuation increase, you pivot to AI.
It's just like in the '90s when anyone could say 'web' in a VC pitch and get funded.
... And just like in the early 00s, when that bubble bursts, some companies will have figured it out, and a lot of companies will fail catastrophically... and there will be people who redirected their entire career to align with what industry was asking for, who will left with difficult-to-market skills.
And nothing is going to change, because every VC sees their investment as the next Amazon rather than the next Pets.com.
@mathaetaes yup.
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Welp. I've been using GitLab for over a decade and have been pretty happy with it. Deployed and maintained several instances, some personal, some for small hobby orgs, some for work.
But it looks like it is time to ditch GitLab for good:
> Software will be built by machines, directed by people. AI is the substrate on which future software gets built. Agents will plan, code, review, deploy, and repair.
https://about.gitlab.com/blog/gitlab-act-2/ -
Unfortunately there is only GitHub in close comparison. I don’t know anything else capable of being used for business when you want an integrated version control and CI/CD tool (so no Jenkins (
) here, whateverforgit there)If anybody knows an alternative please respond.
@maschinentraum @samueljohn @rysiek @frumble Atlassian Bitbucket is used by companies.
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