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  3. Today Anthropic joins the Blender Development Fund as corporate sponsor.

Today Anthropic joins the Blender Development Fund as corporate sponsor.

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  • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

    Make sure to check out the full message on https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/ and the funding policy at https://fund.blender.org/funding-policy/ to get the complete picture.

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    @Blender They sure as shit aren't doing it for the benefit of you, the community, or anyone else on Earth. Only themselves and their investors.

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      @Blender The need for multiple clarifications and rewordings should tell you that THIS IS A BAD IDEA.

      The only way to save this is to take a clear stance and refuse to ever work with any AI company.

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      @dfyx They're also sponsored by Google and Meta. 🤷‍♂️ Not that ethical either.

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        All right, Francesco here - CEO at Blender. I'm going to spend some time to try and respond. If you have direct questions or comments, reply here!

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        @fsiddi
        @Blender

        I appreciate you opening your feed to this discussion. I suppose my central concern is that in an open-source project such as Blender, the community aspect is vital, as that's after all where the work is done. Blender's community, who have worked on this for so long, are a melange of extraordinary artists and programming savants -- neither of whom are in the same moral alignment as groups such as Anthropic, who make a point of seeking to replace artists, writers, and coders.

        While I understand that your funding policy specifically states that those providing money to the project will not influence its roadmap, and I certainly expect that this is your intention, unfortunately, the open source community have been burned on a wide variety of circumstances much like this one, where the alignment of a project shifts to the people waving money. The intrinsic way in which this happens is for the project leaders themselves to be influenced by the funding, and I will assume that you're on guard against that; one extrinsic way is that members of the community who are against this source of funding will themselves leave, causing a gap in progress which may well be filled with bad actors and those who are more aligned with the funders' goals.

        At the moment I can see no viable means by which to thread the needle: Blender is on a precipice, in which either the money is refused and the community tentatively rejoins, on guard for another such effort, or in which Blender take the money and the community fracture, as we've seen in numerous FOSS projects.

        Make no mistake, I and many others see this as an outright betrayal, especially with Anthropic's efforts to use Blender for its own, if you'll pardon my language, sewage system of generated content. I would simply like to know: will the project continue with the community built over the last two decades, or will it discard them in favour of a corporate attachment which, even in the absence of direct malice, will cause untold harms?

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          @ninjadodo @Blender
          Are Google and Meta dedicated to destroying art and artists?

          For them, it’s an unintended consequence that they don’t understand.

          For Anthropic, it’s the heart of the business model.

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          @JoshuaACNewman @Blender Google and Meta are among the biggest drivers of AI in the world. They are no less bad than Anthropic.

          If you draw the line at "Blender should never take donations from ANY company I disagree with" that line was crossed long long ago. They've also taken money from Microsoft and web 3 companies.

          If they turned up their noses at corporate donations the way you're asking they would have basically no funding.

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            @Blender Getting a lot of use out of this lately.

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            @DamonWakes @Blender lmao they edited it to sound less excited

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            • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

              Today Anthropic joins the Blender Development Fund as corporate sponsor. This support will be dedicated towards general Blender core development. More details at https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/

              #b3d #DevFund

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              @Blender NOPE I’M OUT. Fuck you guys. You were literally one of the most loved open source projects OF ALL TIME.

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                @the_wub @Rakkom @Blender Might be a way to find out: https://github.com/Bforartists/Bforartists/issues/6506 (Please don't pile on and try to do only thoguhtful responses.)

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                @the_wub @Rakkom @Blender Update: sadly, they seem to be pro slop. Oh well, was worth asking.

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                  @the_wub @Rakkom @Blender Update: sadly, they seem to be pro slop. Oh well, was worth asking.

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                  @ell1e @Rakkom @Blender Thank you for checking this out!

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                    @Blender I am sure that there are other forks to be had.

                    I could not find anything regarding the Bforartists project's position on AI during my quick search of the site.

                    I have no connection with Bforartists and have not used their product.

                    https://www.bforartists.de/

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                    @Blender Ah it seems that both Blender and thus Bforartists already use LLM code.

                    See:

                    https://github.com/Bforartists/Bforartists/issues/6506

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                      @Blender It's not the announcement, that's tone-deaf. It's the actual acceptance of dirty money by a bad actor that's tone-deaf.

                      Just in case you forgot: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y4jpg922qo

                      They paid $1.5bn because they were IRREFUTABLY CAUGHT PIRATING.

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                      @gruni @Blender It does have a vibe of "Feed me, Seymour" when they start out fistfucking creative people, then begin running out of material to feed the content extruder and then go on to make sure the best tools are supported to keep the pipeline flowing.

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                      • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                        Today Anthropic joins the Blender Development Fund as corporate sponsor. This support will be dedicated towards general Blender core development. More details at https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/

                        #b3d #DevFund

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                        @Blender Ooooh that's a hard no.

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                        • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                          Today Anthropic joins the Blender Development Fund as corporate sponsor. This support will be dedicated towards general Blender core development. More details at https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/

                          #b3d #DevFund

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                          @Blender yo wtf

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                          • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                            Make sure to check out the full message on https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/ and the funding policy at https://fund.blender.org/funding-policy/ to get the complete picture.

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                            @Blender Bad, bad move. Now I need to look for a competitor or a clean fork.

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                              @fsiddi

                              And this is how they benefit. This was the trade off. No one wants this except Anthropic.

                              https://mas.to/@carnage4life/116484113796142877

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                              @noondlyt @fsiddi

                              Wooh... so much for the no quid pro quo posturing. Breathtaking.

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                              • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                                Today Anthropic joins the Blender Development Fund as corporate sponsor. This support will be dedicated towards general Blender core development. More details at https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/

                                #b3d #DevFund

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                                @Blender This going how you thought?

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                                  @noondlyt Blender is Free Software, not taking money for rerecognizing the value of a feature with many possible use cases and users wouldn't have changed it.

                                  @fsiddi

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                                  @DiogoConstantino @fsiddi

                                  I do not understand the point you are attempting to make. This is an ethical argument.

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                                  • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                                    Make sure to check out the full message on https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/ and the funding policy at https://fund.blender.org/funding-policy/ to get the complete picture.

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                                    @Blender You might, perhaps, have noticed that you have managed to annoy quite a lot of people.

                                    Perhaps you think this will blow over, and a week from now people will forget and you'll still have the money.

                                    Perhaps you might be right. Perhaps.

                                    But that money comes with a cost. A cost that your organisation has now aligned itself with a company of thieves, fascists, murderers, actively harming people and the world for greed.

                                    You are now with them.

                                    Think about that. See if it helps you sleep.

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                                    • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                                      Today Anthropic joins the Blender Development Fund as corporate sponsor. This support will be dedicated towards general Blender core development. More details at https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/

                                      #b3d #DevFund

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                                      @Blender

                                      Luddites go "Waaaah!!!"

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                                        @art_codesmith
                                        1. It's a donation
                                        2. I expected a concerned/negative response like for other corporate memberships in the past, hence we try to make it very clear that this is just a donation. This is quite intense.

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                                        @fsiddi @art_codesmith my 2 cents: I am having trouble seeing it as a donation. It's called Corporate Patronage in OP (completely different vibe) and comes with (good) publicity for Anthropic attached. When I donate something, I get nothing in return from the party I donate to. That's a donation in my book. What Anthropic pulls here is, in my book, transactional.

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                                        • blender@mastodon.socialB blender@mastodon.social

                                          Today Anthropic joins the Blender Development Fund as corporate sponsor. This support will be dedicated towards general Blender core development. More details at https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-development-fund-as-corporate-patron/

                                          #b3d #DevFund

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                                          @Blender@mastodon.social

                                          You should be ashamed, for this and using AI in your code regardless.

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