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  3. First of all, *most* of FOSS security reports nowadays (that I see in #curl and #apache httpd) are non-threatening.

First of all, *most* of FOSS security reports nowadays (that I see in #curl and #apache httpd) are non-threatening.

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    First of all, *most* of FOSS security reports nowadays (that I see in #curl and #apache httpd) are non-threatening.

    They are edge cases under highly constructed preconditions. Yes, not impossible, but unlikely to be ever encountered.

    Before LLMs, no researcher would have invested the time to explore those scenarios. my guess.

    Yes, we fix them. But, they could also have been a bug report.💁🏻‍♂️

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      First of all, *most* of FOSS security reports nowadays (that I see in #curl and #apache httpd) are non-threatening.

      They are edge cases under highly constructed preconditions. Yes, not impossible, but unlikely to be ever encountered.

      Before LLMs, no researcher would have invested the time to explore those scenarios. my guess.

      Yes, we fix them. But, they could also have been a bug report.💁🏻‍♂️

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      @icing after twenty or thirty years, the really scary stuff has probably already been found in anything popular. (Probably.)

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        @icing after twenty or thirty years, the really scary stuff has probably already been found in anything popular. (Probably.)

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        @swelljoe @icing eh… either way, it used to be every time a new developer looked at a corner of a code base that hasn't been touched in 10, 20, 30 years we get, at the very least a bug fix a refactoring

        and at least one new person who's now familiar with that code… ⬅️ and the loss of this is perhaps the most frustrating part

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          @harry_wood What? Stefan is literally on the curl team.

          Why are you like this?

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            First of all, *most* of FOSS security reports nowadays (that I see in #curl and #apache httpd) are non-threatening.

            They are edge cases under highly constructed preconditions. Yes, not impossible, but unlikely to be ever encountered.

            Before LLMs, no researcher would have invested the time to explore those scenarios. my guess.

            Yes, we fix them. But, they could also have been a bug report.💁🏻‍♂️

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            @icing I suspect the Linux kernel is an exception.

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              @harry_wood What? Stefan is literally on the curl team.

              Why are you like this?

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              @holsta Ah yes. Sorry. I saw two separate posts drifting onto my timeline (which isn't normally about curl or security stuff). They seemed related in an interesting way which I thought I would comment on it. But maybe I should've noticed they're both from people who are well aware of eachother.

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                First of all, *most* of FOSS security reports nowadays (that I see in #curl and #apache httpd) are non-threatening.

                They are edge cases under highly constructed preconditions. Yes, not impossible, but unlikely to be ever encountered.

                Before LLMs, no researcher would have invested the time to explore those scenarios. my guess.

                Yes, we fix them. But, they could also have been a bug report.💁🏻‍♂️

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                @icing at libssh we're considering the policy of filing all bugs under a certain CVSS threshold (5 or 6) as regular bug reports in bug tracking and fix them without any embargo to avoid clogging up the security pipeline

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                  @icing at libssh we're considering the policy of filing all bugs under a certain CVSS threshold (5 or 6) as regular bug reports in bug tracking and fix them without any embargo to avoid clogging up the security pipeline

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                  @aris @icing if its not RCE in a normal deployment - it's just a normal bug. Makes sense,

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                    @aris @icing if its not RCE in a normal deployment - it's just a normal bug. Makes sense,

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                    @stevel @icing There's more than RCE, e.g. heartbleed had a 8.6 cvss w/o RCE, but had aggravating factors that aren't evaluated by the CVSS scale, like how widespread the vulnerable configuration is.

                    https://www.first.org/cvss/calculator/3.1#CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:C/C:H/I:N/A:N

                    In comparison, we have a 4-bytes uninitialized stack value leak in application logs bug to be reported soon. CVSS 3.1 Low
                    https://www.first.org/cvss/calculator/3.1#CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:H/PR:L/UI:N/S:U/C:L/I:N/A:N

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                      First of all, *most* of FOSS security reports nowadays (that I see in #curl and #apache httpd) are non-threatening.

                      They are edge cases under highly constructed preconditions. Yes, not impossible, but unlikely to be ever encountered.

                      Before LLMs, no researcher would have invested the time to explore those scenarios. my guess.

                      Yes, we fix them. But, they could also have been a bug report.💁🏻‍♂️

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                      @icing And then people observe the changes required to fix the problem and can use them to create their exploit right away, even before the fix is released.

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                        First of all, *most* of FOSS security reports nowadays (that I see in #curl and #apache httpd) are non-threatening.

                        They are edge cases under highly constructed preconditions. Yes, not impossible, but unlikely to be ever encountered.

                        Before LLMs, no researcher would have invested the time to explore those scenarios. my guess.

                        Yes, we fix them. But, they could also have been a bug report.💁🏻‍♂️

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                        @icing I like to think we're closing the back doors and zero days nation state actors had found and not reported.

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