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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.

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    Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
    The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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    @hpod16 I don't hold out a lot of faith on the median level of intelligence or common sense for the FB crowd. Nothing surprises me with that lot any more.

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      @lucien @hpod16 Facebook users might also be more comfortable with Friendica rather than Mastodon.

      Maybe collaborate with Friendica developers to get a good beginner's guide for Facebook users going?

      When working on such a guide, it's always good to have the view of somebody completely new to the software like yourself.

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      #82

      @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
      My experience of friendica was awful. Full of dodgy accounts and some very nasty porn. Otherwise the only posts I saw were from Mastodon.
      I'm hoping it's improved since.

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      • ? Gast

        Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
        The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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        #83

        @hpod16 a special Facebook only for certified citizens of one place sounds like deepest hell

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          Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
          The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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          #84

          @hpod16 wow, great! @EUCommission

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            @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
            My experience of friendica was awful. Full of dodgy accounts and some very nasty porn. Otherwise the only posts I saw were from Mastodon.
            I'm hoping it's improved since.

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            #85

            @Sarahw @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
            Mainly depending the server you are connected.
            We have choice, many choice, and we also can move from one to another, have several accounts, choose clients too.
            That is so great.

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              @realcaseyrollins @lucien oh dang, there goes my excuse to ignore DMs! But thanks for telling me!

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              #86

              @hpod16 @lucien You're welcome! I do think they should rename these to "direct messages", I think the #Mastodon has a hangup about the verbiage, although I can't remember exactly what it is or why.

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                @hpod16 was the fediverse created in europe? it's insane to say this when the technology itself is being mantained and expanded by people all around the world, including americans, asians, south americans, africans, etc.

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                #87

                @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social yesn't. The group designing ActivityPub as protocol was probably international and intercontinental. But the biggest name in that space, Mastodon, is very much German software

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                  @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social yesn't. The group designing ActivityPub as protocol was probably international and intercontinental. But the biggest name in that space, Mastodon, is very much German software

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                  #88

                  @mstar @hpod16 that would be completely ignoring the huge impact of misskey and forks, and how many of the mastodon contributors are international

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                    @mstar @hpod16 that would be completely ignoring the huge impact of misskey and forks, and how many of the mastodon contributors are international

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                    @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social eh, not really. Sure, misskey is a big part now. But the big initial push was Mastodon. And, by share, Masto still runs on like 3/4 of all servers iirc. And you can still claim that Masto is German because the main driving force behind development is still the non-profit, located in Germany (even if German government bullshit caused them to also register in Canada iirc)

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                      @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social eh, not really. Sure, misskey is a big part now. But the big initial push was Mastodon. And, by share, Masto still runs on like 3/4 of all servers iirc. And you can still claim that Masto is German because the main driving force behind development is still the non-profit, located in Germany (even if German government bullshit caused them to also register in Canada iirc)

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                      @mstar @hpod16 true, but to call the fediverse essentially an "european social media" is a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what happens in the space, both of open source in general and just the nature of the fediverse as a network

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                        @mstar @hpod16 true, but to call the fediverse essentially an "european social media" is a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what happens in the space, both of open source in general and just the nature of the fediverse as a network

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                        @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social I think some context might have got lost. Your initial question was if the fediverse was created in Europe. To which the answer is that the protocol wasn't, but the software that made it famous was, especially during that initial growth period.
                        Of course it's a lot more diverse nowadays and that diversity keeps increasing. One of the biggest seeds was and still is European though

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                          Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                          The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                          @hpod16 it is not the problem . Facebook is the only one who is about people you known rather then artists, celebrities , companies etx

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                            @mstar @hpod16 true, but to call the fediverse essentially an "european social media" is a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what happens in the space, both of open source in general and just the nature of the fediverse as a network

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                            @nelson @mstar @hpod16 "linux [the kernel] is finnish and bsd is american" haha no both are international

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                              Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                              The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                              @hpod16 ...and then propose a new proprietary network "W"

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                                @nelson @mstar @hpod16 "linux [the kernel] is finnish and bsd is american" haha no both are international

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                                @nebby@is.not-a.top @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social as I've said in my other reply: Masto started German. It evolved over time, like most foss projects and is now a lot more international

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                                  Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                  The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                                  @hpod16 Ugh, I - as an American citizen - am so jealous. I have never in my thirty-year career in IT/Technology seen any unit of the American government make a non-terrible software/solution recommendation.

                                  👍 Well don.e

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                                    Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                    The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                                    @hpod16 - is the European Commission in a position to more actively help make onboarding easier? Would be amazing if they could go beyond just referring people to the existing documentation.

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                                      @moftasa
                                      Yeah, what the Commission answered here isn't quite what they asked.
                                      But with a generous reading, still an opportunity to promote the Fediverse.

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                                      @hpod16 @moftasa It shouldn't really matter, though. The server may be EU based and only open to EU citizens to register, but it's not a "silo". It's simply one's home base. Other than server block lists implemented by the server's moderators, you can engage with anyone, anywhere, in the Fediverse.

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                                        Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                        The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                                        @hpod16 one cannot blame them at all. Facebook, X, Instagram, and similar platforms owned by large IT companies rely on ease of use and comercial stuff to remain popular.

                                        For good, alternatives like Mastodon remain social because they rely on recommendation rather than profit.

                                        I try to carry my friends here, while looking for new ones (the second, being the easier).

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                                          @hpod16 @moftasa

                                          I read it like the person who asked wanted a silo while the EU Commission social media people answered with the actually open alternative. Like even if there were Fedi servers that allow only people verified to be EU citizens (or residents), one could still interact with all the world across servers.

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                                          @project1enigma @hpod16 @moftasa The moderators on the proposed EU centric server can be very strict about allowing engagement from the USA. Some USA based servers allow hateful content, others don't. The mods can block entire servers that are lax about allowing such negativity while still allowing engagement from "nice" servers. I imagine the original requester might be okay with that? Otherwise, yes, an EU server *could* be created that blocks literally EVERYTHING that isn't EU.

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