I've had 20 sign ups to my Mastodon server in the past 48 hours, and 100% of them have been scammers, phishers and SEO spammers.
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I've had 20 sign ups to my Mastodon server in the past 48 hours, and 100% of them have been scammers, phishers and SEO spammers.
I make an effort to go in and suspend the accounts, nobody ever protests the suspension.
The fediverse is at a crossroads, the user base is dwindling and the new users are mostly just SEO spam accounts.
@GossiTheDog the best way to fix that is make it exclusive. Go invite only.
It increases demand as soon as you add a gate.
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For those who don't think the user base is dwindling, a few years ago Mastodon was celebrating about 2m monthly active users. Nowadays it's 0.7m.
@GossiTheDog
Any change in the picture on shorter intervals since the bsky investment news came out? Or is it too soon to see? -
For those who don't think the user base is dwindling, a few years ago Mastodon was celebrating about 2m monthly active users. Nowadays it's 0.7m.
@GossiTheDog I would guess 30% of that .7m are spam accounts. It’s a little sad.
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For those who don't think the user base is dwindling, a few years ago Mastodon was celebrating about 2m monthly active users. Nowadays it's 0.7m.
@GossiTheDog is there research on the reasons?
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For those who don't think the user base is dwindling, a few years ago Mastodon was celebrating about 2m monthly active users. Nowadays it's 0.7m.
@GossiTheDog Its clear there isn’t enough incentive for mass
Public to join the Fediverse. The messaging is to confusing, the onboarding is strange to people. Influencers are big part of modern social media and there is little incentive for them to be here.I’ll also say I don’t believe the majority of servers have the resources to take on mass amounts of people if they were to come.
Mastodon / Fediverse is a niche place. To be honest there is nothing wrong with that. So long as people have the means to keep things running there will always be a fediverse.
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@GossiTheDog I would guess 30% of that .7m are spam accounts. It’s a little sad.
@jerry @GossiTheDog hot damn that is a big swing!
I know everyone has ideas, but do y'all have ideas that are at least based on your large data sets? Alls I got are tea leaves and "yeah, that feels right" as my backbones, lol.
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I've had 20 sign ups to my Mastodon server in the past 48 hours, and 100% of them have been scammers, phishers and SEO spammers.
I make an effort to go in and suspend the accounts, nobody ever protests the suspension.
The fediverse is at a crossroads, the user base is dwindling and the new users are mostly just SEO spam accounts.
@GossiTheDog
Case for approval-based registration? -
@jerry @GossiTheDog hot damn that is a big swing!
I know everyone has ideas, but do y'all have ideas that are at least based on your large data sets? Alls I got are tea leaves and "yeah, that feels right" as my backbones, lol.
@faultcraft @GossiTheDog do you mean ideas on why that's happening?
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I've had 20 sign ups to my Mastodon server in the past 48 hours, and 100% of them have been scammers, phishers and SEO spammers.
I make an effort to go in and suspend the accounts, nobody ever protests the suspension.
The fediverse is at a crossroads, the user base is dwindling and the new users are mostly just SEO spam accounts.
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@prism @GossiTheDog I'm not surprised. Even with the fedaverse and activity pub we are spoiled for choice. I like mbin the best but search with it is meh.
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I've had 20 sign ups to my Mastodon server in the past 48 hours, and 100% of them have been scammers, phishers and SEO spammers.
I make an effort to go in and suspend the accounts, nobody ever protests the suspension.
The fediverse is at a crossroads, the user base is dwindling and the new users are mostly just SEO spam accounts.
@GossiTheDog
There needs to be a better way of requesting accounts... -
For those who don't think the user base is dwindling, a few years ago Mastodon was celebrating about 2m monthly active users. Nowadays it's 0.7m.
@GossiTheDog
Not all servers federate with the flagship, so that number is skewed. -
For those who don't think the user base is dwindling, a few years ago Mastodon was celebrating about 2m monthly active users. Nowadays it's 0.7m.
In my opinion, the complexity is compounded by the absolutely abysmal mobile experience. Put succinctly - the software sucks - and it scares all the normies away.
And then there is the Mastodon peeps. God bless 'em. There are a lot of good people here, but a lot of terrible ones as well.
All this is going to suppress usage.
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@serrebi @GossiTheDog I don't care anymore I just want someone to make the everything client.
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@GossiTheDog Its clear there isn’t enough incentive for mass
Public to join the Fediverse. The messaging is to confusing, the onboarding is strange to people. Influencers are big part of modern social media and there is little incentive for them to be here.I’ll also say I don’t believe the majority of servers have the resources to take on mass amounts of people if they were to come.
Mastodon / Fediverse is a niche place. To be honest there is nothing wrong with that. So long as people have the means to keep things running there will always be a fediverse.
@64bithero @GossiTheDog I think also, deep down, most people just want to lurk around the popular kids where they can see what other people are looking at and doing.
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@faultcraft @GossiTheDog do you mean ideas on why that's happening?
@jerry @GossiTheDog yes, why folks may have left so suddenly.
I honestly missed it myself as I was going thru a big life change at the time. I was here as part of the twitter exodus right, but I just came back a year or less ago to Mastodon, and only recently really really here.
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@GossiTheDog I would guess 30% of that .7m are spam accounts. It’s a little sad.
@jerry I think it might be more.. I've been keeping a close eye on accounts here lately and sadly almost all of them sign up, post some links in their profile, and then disappear. I don't allow brand accounts but they keep coming, it's all from India and Vietnam - SEO farms basically.
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@jerry @GossiTheDog yes, why folks may have left so suddenly.
I honestly missed it myself as I was going thru a big life change at the time. I was here as part of the twitter exodus right, but I just came back a year or less ago to Mastodon, and only recently really really here.
@faultcraft @GossiTheDog I think there are a lot of reasons, but a big one is the network effect - people want to be where the people are. There was a big rush of people here after Musk bought Twitter, and that is the 2.7M accounts. Lots of people got disenfranchised for various reasons: the culture can be a bit toxic (especially at the time), it's very hard to fend off harassment in a federated network like this, the features are/were not at parity, and so on. So we are on the way back to where it's mainly the people who specifically want to be here and not some other social media site.
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@jerry I think it might be more.. I've been keeping a close eye on accounts here lately and sadly almost all of them sign up, post some links in their profile, and then disappear. I don't allow brand accounts but they keep coming, it's all from India and Vietnam - SEO farms basically.
@GossiTheDog I definitely see a lot of that. Since we moderate signups here, I would estimate it's about 50/50 between legit people and spammers/scammers signing up. But we are overall losing more people that we are gaining.
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@GossiTheDog I definitely see a lot of that. Since we moderate signups here, I would estimate it's about 50/50 between legit people and spammers/scammers signing up. But we are overall losing more people that we are gaining.
