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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    DDos (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against BlueSky a few days ago: The whole network goes down.

    DDoS against mastodon.social today: Lots of users on that instance impacted, the rest of the Fediverse keeps on running, my instance doesn't really notice, messages will be queued up until mastodon.social is reachable again.

    Both networks claim to be decentralised and federated. You decide 🙂

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    And to be very clear about this: DDoS attacks are stupid and cause a lot of work. My sympathy goes to the sysadmins on every side, including those at the upstream network providers who have to deal with this, often at weird times. It is exhausting work and I really don't want you to have to do it, but hey, that's the world we live in, unfortunately. Sys Admin Hug!

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      DDos (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against BlueSky a few days ago: The whole network goes down.

      DDoS against mastodon.social today: Lots of users on that instance impacted, the rest of the Fediverse keeps on running, my instance doesn't really notice, messages will be queued up until mastodon.social is reachable again.

      Both networks claim to be decentralised and federated. You decide 🙂

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      @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      This is why people should span out across the Fediverse.

      We have this decentralized network, but if most people are in the same place you can take most of it out in one move. Clustering on one large site makes it the weakest link.
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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        DDos (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against BlueSky a few days ago: The whole network goes down.

        DDoS against mastodon.social today: Lots of users on that instance impacted, the rest of the Fediverse keeps on running, my instance doesn't really notice, messages will be queued up until mastodon.social is reachable again.

        Both networks claim to be decentralised and federated. You decide 🙂

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        @jwildeboer it's only decebtralized if there's no Single Point if Failure.

        Same goes for anything else:

        • Regardless if #XMPP+#OMEMO
          • If say 5222.de is down the only ones noticing are their users and their contacts.
        • Or #PGP/MIME.
          • And that is it's strenght.

        In fact #eMail is so powerful that @delta / #deltaChat is getting popular in #Russia because even if they wanted to, (they don't, obviously!) they couldn't comply with #Roskomnadnozr's #Cyberfascism!

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          And to be very clear about this: DDoS attacks are stupid and cause a lot of work. My sympathy goes to the sysadmins on every side, including those at the upstream network providers who have to deal with this, often at weird times. It is exhausting work and I really don't want you to have to do it, but hey, that's the world we live in, unfortunately. Sys Admin Hug!

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          @jwildeboer In most cases they are so rampant that #Blackholing said traffic at the IX level works pretty well…

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

            DDos (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against BlueSky a few days ago: The whole network goes down.

            DDoS against mastodon.social today: Lots of users on that instance impacted, the rest of the Fediverse keeps on running, my instance doesn't really notice, messages will be queued up until mastodon.social is reachable again.

            Both networks claim to be decentralised and federated. You decide 🙂

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            @jwildeboer @CAPETOK he aquí la explicación de lo que te quejabas en la mañana con respecto a mastodon

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              @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              This is why people should span out across the Fediverse.

              We have this decentralized network, but if most people are in the same place you can take most of it out in one move. Clustering on one large site makes it the weakest link.
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              @Linux @jwildeboer this is interesting to ponder and quite true. Also, may be an argument for multiple accounts on multiple instances.

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                DDos (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against BlueSky a few days ago: The whole network goes down.

                DDoS against mastodon.social today: Lots of users on that instance impacted, the rest of the Fediverse keeps on running, my instance doesn't really notice, messages will be queued up until mastodon.social is reachable again.

                Both networks claim to be decentralised and federated. You decide 🙂

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                @jwildeboer Apparently not the entire BlueSky network went down because of this. Someone yesterday pointed out that they still were able to post and do stuff with people on other instances BUT that the main issue is the BlueSky network demands that everyone has a full view on their own instance. As you get replies by them referencing the parent post and not the parent referencing the children...

                So I assume BlueSky is more like the Usenet than like Mastodon in the end.

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                  @jwildeboer Apparently not the entire BlueSky network went down because of this. Someone yesterday pointed out that they still were able to post and do stuff with people on other instances BUT that the main issue is the BlueSky network demands that everyone has a full view on their own instance. As you get replies by them referencing the parent post and not the parent referencing the children...

                  So I assume BlueSky is more like the Usenet than like Mastodon in the end.

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                  @agowa338 The TL;DR for me is that the current ATProto/Atmosphere architecture still contains centralised elements that stand in the way of full federation. My suspicion is that this is by design.

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                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                    DDos (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against BlueSky a few days ago: The whole network goes down.

                    DDoS against mastodon.social today: Lots of users on that instance impacted, the rest of the Fediverse keeps on running, my instance doesn't really notice, messages will be queued up until mastodon.social is reachable again.

                    Both networks claim to be decentralised and federated. You decide 🙂

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                    @jwildeboer saw mastodon.social was down, just had to flip to my backup account. 🤷‍♂️ it’s that easy. Gotta love federation.

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      DDos (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against BlueSky a few days ago: The whole network goes down.

                      DDoS against mastodon.social today: Lots of users on that instance impacted, the rest of the Fediverse keeps on running, my instance doesn't really notice, messages will be queued up until mastodon.social is reachable again.

                      Both networks claim to be decentralised and federated. You decide 🙂

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                      @jwildeboer there wuz ddos?

                      😲

                      hadnt noticed. real decentralization is great 😁

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                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                        DDos (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against BlueSky a few days ago: The whole network goes down.

                        DDoS against mastodon.social today: Lots of users on that instance impacted, the rest of the Fediverse keeps on running, my instance doesn't really notice, messages will be queued up until mastodon.social is reachable again.

                        Both networks claim to be decentralised and federated. You decide 🙂

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                        @jwildeboer

                        👍

                        There's still a network effect though. Half the accounts I follow or care about are down. But maybe incidents like this will inspire #Mastodon users to migrate off of mastodon.social.

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