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  3. The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

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    The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

    "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

    https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

    #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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      The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

      "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

      https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

      #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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      @manlycoffee once again, Estonia leads the way on tech

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        @manlycoffee once again, Estonia leads the way on tech

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        @jonathankoren

        Absolutely!

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          The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

          "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

          https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

          #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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          @manlycoffee I don’t think an ableist framing of the issue is necessary or helpful; there are serious issues that warrant a much much deeper look:
          * was the office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada consulted and what was their position?
          * the framing of the issue — the proposal voted for at the Liberal Party convention describes a specific approach, without looking at the root cause. What other approaches were considered?
          * Were the downstream effects of the suggested approach considered, and what issues have been raised?
          * Why was this issue voted on in a party convention, without an input from general public, esp. without input from people working in adjacent fields?

          I seriously doubt the Office of the Privacy Commissioner was ever consulted or involved in what is already a clusterfuck, which should be a huge scandal and a wtf in general.

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            The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

            "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

            https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

            #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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            @manlycoffee this fuckers with their fucking shit again. Can we somehow stop them?

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              The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

              "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

              https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

              #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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              @manlycoffee They should do both.

              Too many ways phones are toxic to child development.

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                @manlycoffee They should do both.

                Too many ways phones are toxic to child development.

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                @NicelyManifest

                most of us are concerned about the downstream privacy impact being much worse than what "harm" that social media has on young people.

                Not to mention, even then, another pushback to callout is that people much older are also not better off, so how do we address those?

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                  @manlycoffee I don’t think an ableist framing of the issue is necessary or helpful; there are serious issues that warrant a much much deeper look:
                  * was the office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada consulted and what was their position?
                  * the framing of the issue — the proposal voted for at the Liberal Party convention describes a specific approach, without looking at the root cause. What other approaches were considered?
                  * Were the downstream effects of the suggested approach considered, and what issues have been raised?
                  * Why was this issue voted on in a party convention, without an input from general public, esp. without input from people working in adjacent fields?

                  I seriously doubt the Office of the Privacy Commissioner was ever consulted or involved in what is already a clusterfuck, which should be a huge scandal and a wtf in general.

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                  @wbftw

                  this is a highly thoughtful response. Thank you.

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                    The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

                    "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

                    https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

                    #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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                    @manlycoffee The PISA 2022 educational survey considers Estonian school students have the best school results in Europe & are among the world's 🔝 8! 😜 👏 🧠 💭 👩‍🏫 🌳 https://www.educationestonia.org/estonias-pisa-2022-results-consistently-among-the-worlds-best/

                    The Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) by the OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development)

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                      @NicelyManifest

                      most of us are concerned about the downstream privacy impact being much worse than what "harm" that social media has on young people.

                      Not to mention, even then, another pushback to callout is that people much older are also not better off, so how do we address those?

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                      @manlycoffee There are many things to consider and change. The will to do so is only slowly kindling.

                      Addiction of doom-scrolling is largely age independent I believe. Trivial to add increasing pauses as you scroll.

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                        The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

                        "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

                        https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

                        #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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                        @manlycoffee Estonia would seem to be one of the most tech literate countries in the world.

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                          @manlycoffee There are many things to consider and change. The will to do so is only slowly kindling.

                          Addiction of doom-scrolling is largely age independent I believe. Trivial to add increasing pauses as you scroll.

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                          @NicelyManifest

                          Yeah, I proposed that before we ban social media by age, instead, let's have a blanket ban on auto-scrolling videos.

                          This would probably capture the "harm" that we want the under 16s to be shielded from, but older individuals are not immune from it, so they'd also benefit from the ban.

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                            The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

                            "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

                            https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

                            #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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                            @manlycoffee

                            should!!!

                            "should" makes your conscience feel good.

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                              @manlycoffee

                              should!!!

                              "should" makes your conscience feel good.

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                              @bureaux

                              Yeah, a better wording would have been "must" rather than "should"

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                                The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

                                "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

                                https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

                                #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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                                @manlycoffee Exactly what I was thinking also!

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                                  The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

                                  "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

                                  https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

                                  #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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                                  @manlycoffee

                                  I think its a trap the argument,
                                  you have to choose: ban or regulation.
                                  I think both are needed.

                                  ¿What is the psicological and social imperative to a kid for needing social media? Kids have other far more important imperatives: their rights to play, to socialize, health, education and healthy family and enviroment... not social media of #bigtech

                                  Also, social media needs to be regulated, heavily. Socials #bigtechs creates adiction and anxiety for everyone.

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                                    @manlycoffee

                                    I think its a trap the argument,
                                    you have to choose: ban or regulation.
                                    I think both are needed.

                                    ¿What is the psicological and social imperative to a kid for needing social media? Kids have other far more important imperatives: their rights to play, to socialize, health, education and healthy family and enviroment... not social media of #bigtech

                                    Also, social media needs to be regulated, heavily. Socials #bigtechs creates adiction and anxiety for everyone.

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                                    @awkapuma

                                    https://techhub.social/@manlycoffee/116415726174483989

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                                      The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

                                      "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

                                      https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

                                      #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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                                      @manlycoffee

                                      FWIW, I completely agree with Estonia here!

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                                        The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

                                        "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

                                        https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

                                        #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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                                        @manlycoffee

                                        Here in the States, they can take phones from my niblings when they get rid of the goddam war machines from civilians.

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                                          The Parliament of Estonia is orders of magnitude smarter than whoever is in the Parliament of Canada (including Mark Carney).

                                          "Europe should regulate Big Tech instead of banning kids from social media, Estonia says"

                                          https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-should-stand-up-to-big-tech-instead-of-imposing-social-media-bans-estonia-says/

                                          #CanPoli #CanadianPolitics #CanadaPolitics

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                                          @manlycoffee Considering most efforts to "ban" tech platforms is really just a play at surveillance overreach, regulating the platforms themselves seems like a more logical step forward in the name of safety.

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