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  3. Usually, I'm quite happy with #Linux:

Usually, I'm quite happy with #Linux:

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  • mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Usually, I'm quite happy with #Linux:

    It just works, and I don't have to think about it at all.

    But sometimes, I reckon: If it sucks, it sucks badly.

    I use the command line video editor #ffmpeg quite a lot, but yesterday, it just stopped working, first producing wrong results and then weird error messages.

    Internet search for the error messages gave lots of results from the 2010s and Reddit threads where the issue remained unresolved.

    "OK", I thought, "Let's do what everyone does":

    1/3

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    • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

      Usually, I'm quite happy with #Linux:

      It just works, and I don't have to think about it at all.

      But sometimes, I reckon: If it sucks, it sucks badly.

      I use the command line video editor #ffmpeg quite a lot, but yesterday, it just stopped working, first producing wrong results and then weird error messages.

      Internet search for the error messages gave lots of results from the 2010s and Reddit threads where the issue remained unresolved.

      "OK", I thought, "Let's do what everyone does":

      1/3

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      #2

      $ sudo apt reinstall ffmpeg

      Alas, to no avail! No improvement.

      So underlying libraries are probably the problem.

      If only apt reinstall had a flag "--all-dependencies"!

      But no. I found a script (on Reddit again) that would do it, but didn't felt like running a script by some random dude, so let's do the "modern" thing and use a snap.

      2/3

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      • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

        $ sudo apt reinstall ffmpeg

        Alas, to no avail! No improvement.

        So underlying libraries are probably the problem.

        If only apt reinstall had a flag "--all-dependencies"!

        But no. I found a script (on Reddit again) that would do it, but didn't felt like running a script by some random dude, so let's do the "modern" thing and use a snap.

        2/3

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        #3

        The snap worked, but only so so:

        Now ffmpeg didn't find its component ffprobe, despite it being part of the snap.

        God, I hated Linux in that moment!

        So, away with the snap.

        Read the ffmpeg documentation, found the list of its libraries, reinstalled them all and then, finally, everything worked.

        But: Am I right or not?

        This is not something a normal person would consider a viable solution.

        3/3

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        • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

          The snap worked, but only so so:

          Now ffmpeg didn't find its component ffprobe, despite it being part of the snap.

          God, I hated Linux in that moment!

          So, away with the snap.

          Read the ffmpeg documentation, found the list of its libraries, reinstalled them all and then, finally, everything worked.

          But: Am I right or not?

          This is not something a normal person would consider a viable solution.

          3/3

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          @mina

          Once I tried to use Linux but I could never get used to that operating system. It is very clean, very fluid, does not consume a lot of resources but I encountered many incompatibility problems, I had to be doing one and another modification and I wasted more time than taking advantage of its virtues.

          I think it was also my lack of knowledge or I do not know but the year I used it was very turbulent 🤣

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            @mina

            Once I tried to use Linux but I could never get used to that operating system. It is very clean, very fluid, does not consume a lot of resources but I encountered many incompatibility problems, I had to be doing one and another modification and I wasted more time than taking advantage of its virtues.

            I think it was also my lack of knowledge or I do not know but the year I used it was very turbulent 🤣

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            @NatalyMillan

            I am using it probably since you were born (around 1995. I think, this might be about right).

            Normally, it's dead easy, unless it's not.

            However, I ditched Windows completely when I tried to switch from XP to Windows 10 and too much of my hardware wasn't supported anymore.

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            • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

              @NatalyMillan

              I am using it probably since you were born (around 1995. I think, this might be about right).

              Normally, it's dead easy, unless it's not.

              However, I ditched Windows completely when I tried to switch from XP to Windows 10 and too much of my hardware wasn't supported anymore.

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              @mina

              Windows 10, even 11, I think have been the most problematic Windows versions of all time in terms of performance issues. You have to have a state of the art computer to run them well, like the desktop I have in my office that I bought two years ago 🤣

              Linux is very good but for video editing and rendering it falls short for me. It's not the most used OS in the world for nothing, even though it has all the things we like about it, such as its free and open source.

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                @mina

                Windows 10, even 11, I think have been the most problematic Windows versions of all time in terms of performance issues. You have to have a state of the art computer to run them well, like the desktop I have in my office that I bought two years ago 🤣

                Linux is very good but for video editing and rendering it falls short for me. It's not the most used OS in the world for nothing, even though it has all the things we like about it, such as its free and open source.

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                @NatalyMillan

                I actually do quite some video editing on Linux, I did so even when I still had Windows (and a paid software - Avid-Studio Professional), but found Kdenlive just as capable.

                But I never did video editing on a professional level, so that I had to use Adobe products (€€€😱).

                Davinci-Resolve works on Linux, but it's too picky with its hardware requirements.

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                • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                  @NatalyMillan

                  I actually do quite some video editing on Linux, I did so even when I still had Windows (and a paid software - Avid-Studio Professional), but found Kdenlive just as capable.

                  But I never did video editing on a professional level, so that I had to use Adobe products (€€€😱).

                  Davinci-Resolve works on Linux, but it's too picky with its hardware requirements.

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                  @mina

                  It's what I use the most, Adobe for professional editions, and it costs a lot $$$$ 😬.

                  I tried to use other programs on Linux but they were very basic, they don't have all the tools of Adobe programs.

                  And on Linux I could never run Adobe's, I tried several distros, I don't know what else and it never met my expectations for the use of certain programs.

                  Maybe it was my ignorance, I didn't know how to use Linix or I don't know but it left me very bad experiences in professional use.

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                    @mina

                    It's what I use the most, Adobe for professional editions, and it costs a lot $$$$ 😬.

                    I tried to use other programs on Linux but they were very basic, they don't have all the tools of Adobe programs.

                    And on Linux I could never run Adobe's, I tried several distros, I don't know what else and it never met my expectations for the use of certain programs.

                    Maybe it was my ignorance, I didn't know how to use Linix or I don't know but it left me very bad experiences in professional use.

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                    @NatalyMillan

                    Adobe doesn't provide Linux versions of their programs, only for Windows and Mac.

                    As I said, for hobby use or for YouTube videos, kdenlive on Linux is just fine.

                    For TV quality and commercials, you need Adobe or DaVinci.

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                    • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                      @NatalyMillan

                      Adobe doesn't provide Linux versions of their programs, only for Windows and Mac.

                      As I said, for hobby use or for YouTube videos, kdenlive on Linux is just fine.

                      For TV quality and commercials, you need Adobe or DaVinci.

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                      @mina

                      Exactly. I use Adobe Illustrator and I could never use it on Linux, if memory serves me correctly, I think I used Wine or something like that to run the Windows version of Adobe Illustrator but it was a failure.

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                        @mina

                        Exactly. I use Adobe Illustrator and I could never use it on Linux, if memory serves me correctly, I think I used Wine or something like that to run the Windows version of Adobe Illustrator but it was a failure.

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                        @NatalyMillan

                        This Wine stuff is crap. I never found it to be useful.

                        Better to use Windows natively or find a different way to do things.

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                          @mina

                          Windows 10, even 11, I think have been the most problematic Windows versions of all time in terms of performance issues. You have to have a state of the art computer to run them well, like the desktop I have in my office that I bought two years ago 🤣

                          Linux is very good but for video editing and rendering it falls short for me. It's not the most used OS in the world for nothing, even though it has all the things we like about it, such as its free and open source.

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                          @NatalyMillan@mastodon.social @mina@berlin.social
                          "Most used OS on the World"

                          ​​ That's only true for Desktops. On every other device Linux took over a long time ago.

                          Pixar renders on Linux. As far as i know, there is no good Free Renderer, but there are professional ones for Linux.

                          https://renderman.pixar.com/

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                            @NatalyMillan

                            This Wine stuff is crap. I never found it to be useful.

                            Better to use Windows natively or find a different way to do things.

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                            @mina@berlin.social @NatalyMillan@mastodon.social Thanks to steam and proton it works very well for Games these days. Sometimes even more performant than on native Windows, which is surprising. (I suspect Game Devs do optimizations for the Steam Deck that runs on Linux)

                            But i do agree on every other Software - Always a pain with Wine. It is always a compromise.

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                              @mina@berlin.social @NatalyMillan@mastodon.social Thanks to steam and proton it works very well for Games these days. Sometimes even more performant than on native Windows, which is surprising. (I suspect Game Devs do optimizations for the Steam Deck that runs on Linux)

                              But i do agree on every other Software - Always a pain with Wine. It is always a compromise.

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                              @monkee

                              I don't do video games (I'm just too bad to truly enjoy them), so that's an area, I'm not familiar with.

                              @NatalyMillan

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                                @monkee

                                I don't do video games (I'm just too bad to truly enjoy them), so that's an area, I'm not familiar with.

                                @NatalyMillan

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                                @mina@berlin.social @NatalyMillan@mastodon.social Steam (They are by no way perfect) did a very good Job with Proton. Using their steam installer almost every Windows only Game works without any adjustments on Linux.

                                Some Games help me unclutter my Brain. An hour or two into managing Beavers and i forgot everything else
                                ​​

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                                  @NatalyMillan@mastodon.social @mina@berlin.social
                                  "Most used OS on the World"

                                  ​​ That's only true for Desktops. On every other device Linux took over a long time ago.

                                  Pixar renders on Linux. As far as i know, there is no good Free Renderer, but there are professional ones for Linux.

                                  https://renderman.pixar.com/

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                                  @monkee @mina

                                  Surely with high-tech devices, the right programs for the operating system, numerous modifications, a lot of knowledge and more, you can achieve a great rendering job on Linux. 😛

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                                    @monkee @mina

                                    Surely with high-tech devices, the right programs for the operating system, numerous modifications, a lot of knowledge and more, you can achieve a great rendering job on Linux. 😛

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                                    @NatalyMillan@mastodon.social @mina@berlin.social

                                    There may be a Gap between Hobby and very Professional. I'm only a Hobbyist and happy with
                                    #Kdenlive

                                    Veronica
                                    @veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube just made a good Video on how she produces them on Linux.

                                    https://tinkerbetter.tube/w/babc1e8d-785a-464e-b791-14c76246ef8c

                                    In the End. Everyone should choose the tool they are most comfortable with.
                                    ​:blobcathero:​ ​:floofHeart:​

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                                      @NatalyMillan@mastodon.social @mina@berlin.social

                                      There may be a Gap between Hobby and very Professional. I'm only a Hobbyist and happy with
                                      #Kdenlive

                                      Veronica
                                      @veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube just made a good Video on how she produces them on Linux.

                                      https://tinkerbetter.tube/w/babc1e8d-785a-464e-b791-14c76246ef8c

                                      In the End. Everyone should choose the tool they are most comfortable with.
                                      ​:blobcathero:​ ​:floofHeart:​

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                                      @monkee

                                      Veronica is always worth watching.

                                      @NatalyMillan

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                                      • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                                        @monkee

                                        Veronica is always worth watching.

                                        @NatalyMillan

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                                        @mina@berlin.social Die Jingles erinnern mich voll an so Uralte "EDV-Erklärt" TV Programme ​​ Love it.

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