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Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.

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    Let's ask the real question:

    Firefox users,

    do you want any AI directly built into Firefox, or separated out into extensions?

    @firefoxwebdevs
    @davidgerard
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    #Firefox #InformedConsent

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    @duke_of_germany Das nenne ich mal eindeutiges Feedback 👍

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      @rose_alibi
      i like the #firefox #translation because it helps make the web less US-centric by making international web more accssible.

      #firefox #translations actually respect privacy, as opposed to #googletranslate, so i can use them for the government websites that i don't always understand, because i'm not swedish speaker.

      i don't get why this feature is lumped in with the privacy nightmare chat bots?

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      @pelle @rose_alibi because they're trying to launder the chatbots by equating them with long pre-existing uses of ML that don't need an ever expanding slop machine to work.

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      • ? Gast

        @reflex @duke_of_germany @firefoxwebdevs @davidgerard @tante I meant can I respond to the poll. But i guess now I see the OP I see what I should do. 🙂

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        #341

        @OliviaVespera @duke_of_germany @firefoxwebdevs @davidgerard @tante lol I misread you sorry!

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        • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

          Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.

          They're not LLMs. They're trained on open data.

          Should translation be disabled if the AI 'kill switch' is active?

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          @firefoxwebdevs AI stands for absent intelligence. This applies to the software and most users.

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          • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

            @jesterchen @duke_of_germany ah, I thought 🤷 was well understood to mean "I don't know/care, I just want to see the results". It's pretty commonly used, but clearly not commonly enough. Sorry!

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            @firefoxwebdevs @jesterchen @duke_of_germany

            Immediately restore the work of japanese language translators that you paved over with AI slop

            https://linuxiac.com/ai-controversy-forces-end-of-mozilla-japanese-sumo-community/

            #Firefox #Mozilla #Japanese #GenAI #AISlop

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            • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

              Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.

              They're not LLMs. They're trained on open data.

              Should translation be disabled if the AI 'kill switch' is active?

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              @firefoxwebdevs I wished I saw this post earlier when the pool was open.

              The translation tool is useful, I agree with everyone that pursuing AI (a term so overused that doesn't mean anything anymore) is a mistake. Opera is more known here than Firefox because is good browser, and so FF should.

              However, the translation tool is quite useful tbh, I use it when I want to check something, better than opening google translate...

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              • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.

                They're not LLMs. They're trained on open data.

                Should translation be disabled if the AI 'kill switch' is active?

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                @firefoxwebdevs This is an example of why "AI" is bad terminology: it lumps together unrelated techniques, blurring them so that it's hard to argue meaningfully about the pros and cons because this pro applies to one subset , and that con applies to a different subset, and so on.

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                • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                  Firefox uses on-device downloaded-on-demand ML models for privacy-preserving translation.

                  They're not LLMs. They're trained on open data.

                  Should translation be disabled if the AI 'kill switch' is active?

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                  @firefoxwebdevs Do you want Firefox to be full-featured, integrating translation and AI features in the core product? Or would you prefer that Firefox be just a web browser, with translation and AI features available via plug-in for those who want them?

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                    @firefoxwebdevs This is an example of why "AI" is bad terminology: it lumps together unrelated techniques, blurring them so that it's hard to argue meaningfully about the pros and cons because this pro applies to one subset , and that con applies to a different subset, and so on.

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                    @kelson @firefoxwebdevs Yeah. Like a smallish neural net that runs locally and makes single-line autocomplete suggestions in VS Code? While technically the same fundamental technology as like ChatGPT, there's a difference of scale that's so big as to become a difference of kind.

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                    • ? Gast

                      @firefoxwebdevs Do you want Firefox to be full-featured, integrating translation and AI features in the core product? Or would you prefer that Firefox be just a web browser, with translation and AI features available via plug-in for those who want them?

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                      @jbayes @firefoxwebdevs newsflash Firefox: You make a BROWSER. A browser with a powerful plugin architecture. If you want to add things beyond core browser features, maybe use plugins! Why does all this need to be bundled into the core system at all?

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                      • ? Gast

                        Let's ask the real question:

                        Firefox users,

                        do you want any AI directly built into Firefox, or separated out into extensions?

                        @firefoxwebdevs
                        @davidgerard
                        @tante

                        #Firefox #InformedConsent

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                        @duke_of_germany @firefoxwebdevs @davidgerard @tante

                        Absolutly no AI

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