My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things.
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer I love this analogy! I am on Bluesky too which I enjoy for my friends when we left Twitter years ago, politics (which can be overwhelming with the geyser of news daily), football, and writers. Here I’m just me, interacting with interesting people, wordling daily, and baking and reading lot about computers. It makes me happy
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@Mercurial @jwildeboer We have local influencers, storytellers etc. And village idiots.
@aslakr @Mercurial @jwildeboer We definitely have a better class of village idiot though, wouldn't you say? I mean, some of our shitposters have real talent, and aren't nearly as stupid as they pretend to be!
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer Great picture!
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer Yes! If the goal is "convincing people of a predetermined agenda", then fedi is indeed a failure -- not a very good tool for propaganda. The masters will not find it pleasing.
If the goal is "getting good ideas into the discussion so they can propagate naturally", however... ^.^
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
I am happy to hear in the replies that this visualisation resonates! May it help you all to find new fedinauts to join our street parties! And don't forget to share some food with the many cats that stroll around
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer so, this is where your friends and family are?
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
Sorry but disagree. I see here some "influencers" acting at smaller scale. Not the same ones than in megacorp networks, neither same discourse but the same patterns: disinformation, cult to personality by their followers and no rational debate.
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@jwildeboer so, this is where your friends and family are?
@evan I'd say the social distance between participants of the Fediverse is far shorter than on centralised social networks, yes. I definitely found friends here. Friends as in people that are willing to work together on positive things. On centralised networks my experience always was that people connect based on being AGAINST something. Here, more often, people band together FOR something.
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer
#Fediverse is like a Berlin rave party on unclaimed real estate in the early 1990ies before techno got commercial. -
My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer I think that's also a great thing about mastodon.
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer The Fediverse is for craft tweets with a soul.
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@evan I'd say the social distance between participants of the Fediverse is far shorter than on centralised social networks, yes. I definitely found friends here. Friends as in people that are willing to work together on positive things. On centralised networks my experience always was that people connect based on being AGAINST something. Here, more often, people band together FOR something.
@jwildeboer @evan "My friends and family are here when I invite them in to see something cool I've been working-on. In the meantime, like minded randos occasionally visit to help me build said cool thing because they are way more experienced/interested in cool thing than friends/family and give way better advice. Some of them become friends, but most just appreciate getting to help build cool thing."
Just like my house.
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer but, like a commoners, we don't need to be small. We must to be people. we must to be massive.
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer I think my experience in local politics is very different from yours
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer When the purchase of Twitter was in full swing, I remember delighting in telling academics making fun of the fediverse "it's like a little network of neighborhood bars where people come together and chat about whatever. It's not going to give you the 'author signing at a Borders with the worlds shittiest manager you can blame for -not handling- the crazies that you get into messy fights-with' energy that you desperately crave."
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer I like this lens. I think of open source as an interesting pond with lovely surprises...like spotting a frog or blooms or a creek that feeds the pond. We are curious fish. We like discovery and oxygen.The big tech platforms are water parks with constructed slides, poolside cotton candy and big gulps, sunscreen, and swim fashion. The influencers have megaphones and whistles to tell us when the schedule changes and how to stay safe. To hold your attention, they introduce increasingly insane clickbait innovations like a 180⁰ water slide with an option to add a waterproof VR headset.
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@evan I'd say the social distance between participants of the Fediverse is far shorter than on centralised social networks, yes. I definitely found friends here. Friends as in people that are willing to work together on positive things. On centralised networks my experience always was that people connect based on being AGAINST something. Here, more often, people band together FOR something.
@jwildeboer OK.
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My current way to interest people to join us: The Fediverse is more like local politics, with small communities discussing things. Centralised networks like Twitter, TikTok, instagram etc are more like national politics, with loud mouthpieces shouting over everyone else.
This mental image helps me in understanding why the influencers fail here and they of course think that means that the fediverse must be a lost cause while we commoners happily chug along and enjoy our little street parties
@jwildeboer Ah! Perfect description
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@evan I'd say the social distance between participants of the Fediverse is far shorter than on centralised social networks, yes. I definitely found friends here. Friends as in people that are willing to work together on positive things. On centralised networks my experience always was that people connect based on being AGAINST something. Here, more often, people band together FOR something.
That's the algorithms.
On the big corporate sites, everything is getting steered for "engagement" which usually means conflict. The divide and conquer thing, deliberately designed to be toxic.
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@jwildeboer I think my experience in local politics is very different from yours
@vicgrinberg My experience here in Munich, Bavaria, is that local politics is messy but also very personal. It's people that discuss, sometimes very heated, on local issues in pragmatic ways. Not hiding behind abstract party arguments. And at the end of the meetings, we all go to a beer garden and shake hands.
