Learn to self host now.
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Last year I had a much more elaborate self hosting setup before I upgraded my desktop and culled everything I didn't actually use.
Most notable was a printed page describing how to recover the system if it needed to be reimaged (or at least the steps you need until you can mount the backup and get to the more comprehensive playbook on the device).
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@vkc For the (probably sizable) portion of users who will never, ever self-host, for a variety of reasons, what are the best ways to organize around and support self-hosted content with others?
@yoshemitzu computer clubs can be amazing. There's almost certainly someone nearby who is not only self hosting, but wants to help others do the same (or share resources about it). Finding or starting a computer club/Linux club/etc is probably the best way to go.
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@vkc I manage a selfhosted server for over 10 years and also have the hardware at home. Anyway i always considered VPS a way of selfhosting, but over the years i changed my mind and consider that physically owning the hardware makes a big difference. Maybe there should be a different term that includes VPS hosting, because technically if you move away from say, google docs and setup a nextcloud server in which you control the server... you are selfhosting but also renting the hardware... if you have both things, the software and hardware under your control, it is also selfhosting but it is different from a VPS. Cannot be both the same thing, we need a term to clarify the ownership of the hardware because this matters, you are more independent or soverign about the hosting itself.
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@Meznor dozens of them, but it depends on what you want to self host.
For a lot of things, Nextcloud is a reasonable place to start, and their docs are pretty good. The community snap for Ubuntu, in particular, is very easy if you're new and just trying to get your feet wet.
https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/source_installation.html
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@vkc I manage a selfhosted server for over 10 years and also have the hardware at home. Anyway i always considered VPS a way of selfhosting, but over the years i changed my mind and consider that physically owning the hardware makes a big difference. Maybe there should be a different term that includes VPS hosting, because technically if you move away from say, google docs and setup a nextcloud server in which you control the server... you are selfhosting but also renting the hardware... if you have both things, the software and hardware under your control, it is also selfhosting but it is different from a VPS. Cannot be both the same thing, we need a term to clarify the ownership of the hardware because this matters, you are more independent or soverign about the hosting itself.
@vkc if PCs computing power are ment to be rented (you would not have an actual PC at home) i assume that yeu are talking about selfhosting and owning the hardware too. Interesting times ahead.
Edit: To add this https://hachyderm.io/@pheonix/115899759634576914
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@redliria@neopaquita.es @vkc@linuxmom.net there is also https://cosmos-cloud.io/
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Hi @Meznor !
@elena 's guide will be invaluable if you are looking for a step-by-step installation guide: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/
Happy self-hosting!
@yunohost awww thank you for the great compliment
️ - delighted to hear you are recommending my guides.And hello @Meznor ! I've been writing a blog series about how to self-host from the POV of a total newbie (that was me a year ago).
Part 1 is tech requirements: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/
Part 2 is a step-by-step installation guide for the YunoHost system: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-2-installation-setup/
and part 3 - coming tomorrow! - will show how to install an app. I'll be showcasing #NextCloud.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions
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@vkc My setup if it helps anyone: An RPi 5 (16GB) with a Pimoroni NVMe Duo with two, 1TB SSDs. (One SSD is reserved for my backup.) Runs Raspbian Lite. Hosts my PiHole, Jellyfin, print server with plenty of room to expand to other services. Only accessible within my home network. Total cost was ~$300.
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I would say.... Learn to self‑host remotely.
If you’re American, the last thing you want is for everything to be stored locally on your computer and easily taken.
Due process is clearly out the window. Your rights to privacy and personal property are gone, too. People detained by ICE lose their phones and are never given them back. Your personal computer can also be seized.
Yes, host things yourself — but do it outside U.S. jurisdiction. That means avoiding large corporations like Google, Microsoft, and Amazon. Choose infrastructure overseas, where your government cannot simply claim your data or hardware.
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@vkc It's probably worth distinguishing between services to better scope the project, especially since various projects will require varying levels of public exposure and various kinds of resources.
I'd recommend starting people off with building their own firewall so they're less at risk from their own ISPs. This will be really good practice for setting up complex services like email.
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@yunohost awww thank you for the great compliment
️ - delighted to hear you are recommending my guides.And hello @Meznor ! I've been writing a blog series about how to self-host from the POV of a total newbie (that was me a year ago).
Part 1 is tech requirements: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/
Part 2 is a step-by-step installation guide for the YunoHost system: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-2-installation-setup/
and part 3 - coming tomorrow! - will show how to install an app. I'll be showcasing #NextCloud.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions
y'all are the best, thank you!!