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Learn to self host now.

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    Learn to self host now. While you still can.

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    @vkc I manage a selfhosted server for over 10 years and also have the hardware at home. Anyway i always considered VPS a way of selfhosting, but over the years i changed my mind and consider that physically owning the hardware makes a big difference. Maybe there should be a different term that includes VPS hosting, because technically if you move away from say, google docs and setup a nextcloud server in which you control the server... you are selfhosting but also renting the hardware... if you have both things, the software and hardware under your control, it is also selfhosting but it is different from a VPS. Cannot be both the same thing, we need a term to clarify the ownership of the hardware because this matters, you are more independent or soverign about the hosting itself.

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      @Meznor dozens of them, but it depends on what you want to self host.

      For a lot of things, Nextcloud is a reasonable place to start, and their docs are pretty good. The community snap for Ubuntu, in particular, is very easy if you're new and just trying to get your feet wet.

      https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/source_installation.html

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      @vkc
      I used to run a Nextcloud on a VPS but couldn't come up with any good use for it, so I ended up scrapping it.

      My Synology NAS at home, accessible over Wireguard, fulfills my needs perfectly as I have no need for publicly accessible services.
      @Meznor

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      • ? Gast

        @vkc I manage a selfhosted server for over 10 years and also have the hardware at home. Anyway i always considered VPS a way of selfhosting, but over the years i changed my mind and consider that physically owning the hardware makes a big difference. Maybe there should be a different term that includes VPS hosting, because technically if you move away from say, google docs and setup a nextcloud server in which you control the server... you are selfhosting but also renting the hardware... if you have both things, the software and hardware under your control, it is also selfhosting but it is different from a VPS. Cannot be both the same thing, we need a term to clarify the ownership of the hardware because this matters, you are more independent or soverign about the hosting itself.

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        @vkc if PCs computing power are ment to be rented (you would not have an actual PC at home) i assume that yeu are talking about selfhosting and owning the hardware too. Interesting times ahead.

        Edit: To add this https://hachyderm.io/@pheonix/115899759634576914

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          @redliria@neopaquita.es @vkc@linuxmom.net there is also https://cosmos-cloud.io/

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          @a @vkc @redliria
          Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! I will try it at some point

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            Learn to self host now. While you still can.

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            @vkc I've got my own gitlab server running on my old PC. I want to put more services on it like a drive and mail. However that PC is running on an 8 core CPU(one of which is broken and doesn't work). I need to upgrade it.

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              Hi @Meznor !

              @elena 's guide will be invaluable if you are looking for a step-by-step installation guide: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/

              Happy self-hosting!

              cc @beaufils
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              @yunohost awww thank you for the great compliment ​ ❤️​ - delighted to hear you are recommending my guides.

              And hello @Meznor ! I've been writing a blog series about how to self-host from the POV of a total newbie (that was me a year ago).

              Part 1 is tech requirements: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/

              Part 2 is a step-by-step installation guide for the YunoHost system: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-2-installation-setup/

              and part 3 - coming tomorrow! - will show how to install an app. I'll be showcasing #NextCloud.

              Feel free to reach out if you have any questions

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                @vkc been meaning to get further into:
                https://coolify.io/

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                  @vkc any good guides to recommend to newbies?

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                  @Meznor @vkc
                  I consider myself a newb, went with unraid followed it has great channels on YouTube on how to implement many services. If you want to access your services remotely I would recommend to start with tailscale so you don't have to deal with port forwarding and security.

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                    Learn to self host now. While you still can.

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                    @vkc My setup if it helps anyone: An RPi 5 (16GB) with a Pimoroni NVMe Duo with two, 1TB SSDs. (One SSD is reserved for my backup.) Runs Raspbian Lite. Hosts my PiHole, Jellyfin, print server with plenty of room to expand to other services. Only accessible within my home network. Total cost was ~$300.

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                      @vkc running ingress/service swarm nodes through a cloudflare tunnel to a proxmox VM on an isolated VLAN, the way the Lord intended

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                        @vkc Did this. Can confirm, it's awesome.

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                          @vkc While it's occasionally frustrating, I overall love it. Use Immich and Emby and Syncthing and NextCloud every single day.

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                            @vkc

                            Serious question: why do you say, so? Why now?

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                              Learn to self host now. While you still can.

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                              I would say.... Learn to self‑host remotely.

                              If you’re American, the last thing you want is for everything to be stored locally on your computer and easily taken.

                              Due process is clearly out the window. Your rights to privacy and personal property are gone, too. People detained by ICE lose their phones and are never given them back. Your personal computer can also be seized.

                              Yes, host things yourself — but do it outside U.S. jurisdiction. That means avoiding large corporations like Google, Microsoft, and Amazon. Choose infrastructure overseas, where your government cannot simply claim your data or hardware.


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                                Learn to self host now. While you still can.

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                                @vkc It's probably worth distinguishing between services to better scope the project, especially since various projects will require varying levels of public exposure and various kinds of resources.

                                I'd recommend starting people off with building their own firewall so they're less at risk from their own ISPs. This will be really good practice for setting up complex services like email.

                                #selfhosting

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                                  @vkc
                                  I did. When it wasn't really necessary but just seemed interesting. Nothing fancy, just Nextcloud on an old desktop machine lurking in a garden shed.

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                                    @yunohost awww thank you for the great compliment ​ ❤️​ - delighted to hear you are recommending my guides.

                                    And hello @Meznor ! I've been writing a blog series about how to self-host from the POV of a total newbie (that was me a year ago).

                                    Part 1 is tech requirements: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/

                                    Part 2 is a step-by-step installation guide for the YunoHost system: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-2-installation-setup/

                                    and part 3 - coming tomorrow! - will show how to install an app. I'll be showcasing #NextCloud.

                                    Feel free to reach out if you have any questions

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                                    @elena @yunohost @beaufils @vkc ❤️ 😀 y'all are the best, thank you!!

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                                      @vkc it's not the server that seems tough to me - it's the networking.

                                      For now, I'm satisfied to keep my website on a hosting service in the EU (which was a very intentional choice).

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                                        @vkc

                                        Serious question: why do you say, so? Why now?

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                                        @lgsp @vkc Age verification. Jeff Bezos wants to kill local computing in favour of cloud and AI computing.

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                                          @vkc if PCs computing power are ment to be rented (you would not have an actual PC at home) i assume that yeu are talking about selfhosting and owning the hardware too. Interesting times ahead.

                                          Edit: To add this https://hachyderm.io/@pheonix/115899759634576914

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                                          @santiago @vkc It is certainly time to install Linux and opensource software and learn how to use it... I am tending towars Fedora. But I look towards Debians, CachyOS and other linuxes.

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