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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    it's possible that one day Windows might catch up to Linux in gaming performance

    no really, Microsoft is literally using SteamOS as its benchmark and working hard to catch up to it in performance, this is not a drill

    https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/what-is-windows-k2-everything-you-need-to-know-saving-windows-11

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    @davidgerard

    LMAO, 🤣

    Save microsoft or any other bully corporation who over-thew the Peoples Gov, should never, ever, happen.

    Eat the bully rich arseholes! Make them pay! on so many levels or scales.

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      @davidgerard It's actually funnier than that: it isn't 'Windows might catch up to Linux in gaming performance', it's 'Windows might catch up to Linux *running Windows games, pretending to be Windows* in gaming performance'.

      It says a lot when emulating something is quicker than running the thing natively.

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      @dickon @davidgerard how the turntables

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        @davidgerard
        Took them long enough to admit that stock Windows 11 is noticeably worse than stock Win10.
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        @moses_izumi @davidgerard I was excited when it first came out cos it looked nicer to me visually. Then I saw the new right click menu. It then went downhill from there...

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          it's possible that one day Windows might catch up to Linux in gaming performance

          no really, Microsoft is literally using SteamOS as its benchmark and working hard to catch up to it in performance, this is not a drill

          https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/what-is-windows-k2-everything-you-need-to-know-saving-windows-11

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          @davidgerard Nice they understand the issue on a technical level, but generally: Whatever OS could run twice as fast as Linux and I still wouldn't consider switching for as long as the company maintaining it is such a shitshow.

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            it's possible that one day Windows might catch up to Linux in gaming performance

            no really, Microsoft is literally using SteamOS as its benchmark and working hard to catch up to it in performance, this is not a drill

            https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/what-is-windows-k2-everything-you-need-to-know-saving-windows-11

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            @davidgerard they can just prompt Copilot to make Windows run better.
            Checkmate, Linux!

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              @dukeboitans @rootwyrm @davidgerard

              There's also the note below:

              NTVDM is a Feature on Demand and only supported on the x86 version of Windows. It is not supported on x64 and ARM versions of Windows, which do not support 16-bit x86 code of any kind, including DOS programs.

              Note that the first use of x86 is Windows terminology, meaning x86-32, the second means x86. The middle one where they say x64 means x86-64.

              As I recall, this was because there's no mechanism to jump to 16-bit mode from long mode on x86. There are some ways of making it work, but they're very clunky. And, given how fast DOSBox is on modern hardware, it's usually simpler to run Win16 in an emulator than try.

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              @david_chisnall @dukeboitans @rootwyrm yeah, this is why I first messed with Wine on Windows in WSL. The prize was running 16-bit Windows apps on 64-bit Windows 10.

              If 16-bit apps still run on Wine on 64-bit WSL2, then you should be able to do the same thing there. Encarta 97 rides again!

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                it's possible that one day Windows might catch up to Linux in gaming performance

                no really, Microsoft is literally using SteamOS as its benchmark and working hard to catch up to it in performance, this is not a drill

                https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/what-is-windows-k2-everything-you-need-to-know-saving-windows-11

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                @davidgerard @Guillotine_Jones They didn’t just burn bridges, they nuked the entire landmass.

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                  @davidgerard@circumstances.run I have been saying for years that a lot (not all, but a lot) of AAA windows games run better on wine/proton, but especially lately I've noticed some things like 1% frame times and graphics stutter being better on linux, which makes the games feel nicer too lol

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                  @froge @davidgerard Some games even have less glitches when run through the translation layer, which is immensely funny to me

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                    @davidgerard It's actually funnier than that: it isn't 'Windows might catch up to Linux in gaming performance', it's 'Windows might catch up to Linux *running Windows games, pretending to be Windows* in gaming performance'.

                    It says a lot when emulating something is quicker than running the thing natively.

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                    @dickon @davidgerard (It's actually a translation layer, not emulation)

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                      @bloognoo @davidgerard In the last few years, they managed to make Calculator, Notepad, and the Taskbar feel unreliable and janky. I don't think they know what 'quality' is, so it's hard to imagine that they can achieve it.

                      IMO, Windows is long overdue for a deep refactor. Keep the kernel, but break-up the various runtimes for different eras of the OS into immutable and separated blobs, and then run apps on those. I don't mind waiting a few seconds for legacy apps to fire-up a legacy runtime if it means my system won't consume 11GB RAM just to get to a desktop.

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                      @DarcMoughty @davidgerard
                      I think they should make the executable annd library system a linux kernel module and create a dm that looks like windows 7. It'll save them all that worry about being crap for games

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                        @DarcMoughty @davidgerard
                        I think they should make the executable annd library system a linux kernel module and create a dm that looks like windows 7. It'll save them all that worry about being crap for games

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                        @bloognoo @davidgerard I like it. Maybe we can start with baby steps... Direct3D should just be part of Mesa, and the Windows kernel adopts KMS and DRM for the drivers. That makes Apple the weirdo on the block.

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                          @bloognoo @davidgerard I like it. Maybe we can start with baby steps... Direct3D should just be part of Mesa, and the Windows kernel adopts KMS and DRM for the drivers. That makes Apple the weirdo on the block.

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                          @DarcMoughty @davidgerard
                          They're a hacked about BSD clone anyway. It's like they don't *want* friends

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