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  3. i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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    @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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      @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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      @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

      I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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        @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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        @badtux @eniko
        Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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          @eniko
          I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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            @me @badtux @eniko
            It's like building on quicksand.

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            @kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
            ..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit? 🤔

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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              @eniko I want coder teams to be teams again who go Kegeln at the end of the day...

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                @eniko I want coder teams to be teams again who go Kegeln at the end of the day...

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                @eniko And people who actually know what they are doing.

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                  @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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                  @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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                    @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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                    @svelmoe @daviddoes @eniko If what I'm after is an experience, sure I would!

                    If what I'm after is a toaster or a washing machine or a lamp, I don't particularly want an "experience".

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                      @eniko That, and also I'd want internet-connected applications out of things where they have no sane reason to be.

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                      @datarama @eniko

                      100%! Why does my fridge need contacts and calendars?

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                        @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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                        @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I don't because Apps generate extra costs and why should I pay more to save the manufacturer money.

                        Fuck 'em.

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                          @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                          As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                          #software #softwaredevelopment

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                          @badtux
                          I think there's enough work refactoring, cleaning up code, fixing old bugs, improving the testsuite, etc. that a same-sized team could do it for years without adding new features.
                          @eniko

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                            @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place I agree. Applications shouldn't be small small, but just have one topic around them.

                            I don't need to micro manage everything but I dont want wechat like mega apps

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                              @eniko I also want the updates to spend more time in UAT/Staging instead of being pushed straight into production.

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                @eniko So say we all. Or at least any of us with any sense.

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                  @eniko can we also go back to calling them "programs" not "apps"? Or am I alone in that peeve?

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                    More true every year @eniko

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                                      @eniko can we also go back to calling them "programs" not "apps"? Or am I alone in that peeve?

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                                      I'd be happy to compromise at “application” because that's a more narrow, accurate term for what they are @bencourtice.

                                      I'm also glad that the obvious power grab by Apple, to call them “app” and then attempt to claim an “app store” can only be owned by Apple, has failed.

                                      @eniko

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                        @eniko @carol https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

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                                          @daviddoes @eniko Within reasonable limits, I am willing to pay for there to *not* be an app.

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                                          @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I do not only want my toaster to be part of a botnet, I want my toaster to not have electronics AT ALL.

                                          There is no reason for my fridge, toaster or oven to have a microcontroller. Really, we've been doing these things a century and today we seem to default to adding microcontrollers to everything.

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