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Well, this is unfortunate.

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    Well, this is unfortunate.

    "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

    #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

    https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

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    @Gina from 1 cloud trap (Google) to another cloud trap (Proton). ☺️

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      @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

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      @JakeKb @Gina signal

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        Well, this is unfortunate.

        "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

        #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

        https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

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        @Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?

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          @imacrea @Gina Did you seriously just snitch-tag? 🙄

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          @dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):

          ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!

          @imacrea @Gina

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            @dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):

            ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!

            @imacrea @Gina

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            @arcanechat @imacrea @Gina Sadly the fedi has no shortage of people who keep stanning for discredited "private email" and "private messenger" scammers. 😫

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              @Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?

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              @arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries

              and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)

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                @arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries

                and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)

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                @caitp to be honest, I don't think there is a solution for streaming of video to huge groups of people (ex. twitch-like)

                but if it is just a meeting with a few people maybe some p2p calls like using webrtc could work, it would be all end-to-end encrypted and without needing to trust any company and also near zero server costs for them

                @Gina

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                  @JakeKb @Gina If you have 75 or less video call attendees then Signal can be your E2EE video-call choice.

                  https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360052977792-Group-Calling-Voice-or-Video

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                  @regendans @JakeKb @Gina
                  Signal works for those who have a cell phone only I believe.

                  I use @hostpoint and KMeet from Infomaniak for individual video calls (ex. My Mom).

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                    Well, this is unfortunate.

                    "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                    #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

                    https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

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                    @Gina
                    No bueno.
                    This stinks.

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                      @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

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                      @JakeKb @Gina we use BigBlueButton. It sometimes glitches, but usually it works fine

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                        Well, this is unfortunate.

                        "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                        #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

                        https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

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                        @Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this

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                          @Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this

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                          @danvolchek no idea.

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                            @Gina Ever since their CEO's position a few years ago it has been clear Proton is not really aligned with consumers' interests.
                            I'm glad things like these are coming to the light.

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                            _Miguel Yes, their CEO's behaviour has been a significant red flag, and I think we're going to continue finding out that they've been lying for years as they've moved to comply in advance on this wave of anti-privacy bills being tossed around the world.

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                              @Gina Of course they did. Because Proton is owned by a fan of fascism.

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                              @dalias

                              Only if you don't know the meaning of the words "own" and "fascism".

                              @Gina

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                                @Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue

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                                @privateger @Gina

                                I need to get off their email. I assume the feds get everything anywhere, but I read Proton's now using my inbox to train AI. No thanks. Do you have any recommendations?

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                                  @dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):

                                  ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!

                                  @imacrea @Gina

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                                  @arcanechat @dalias @imacrea @Gina
                                  😬

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                                    @Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue

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                                    @privateger

                                    Tell us more about these "feds" that break the encryption the linked article says is perfectly fine.

                                    @Gina

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                                      Well, this is unfortunate.

                                      "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                                      #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

                                      https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

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                                      @Gina

                                      Proton isn’t what they tell you it is.

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                                        Well, this is unfortunate.

                                        "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                                        #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

                                        https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

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                                        @Gina Seems to be not the first time that Proton misses the point...

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                                          @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

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                                          @JakeKb @Gina

                                          Hey. I've been using digitalsamba recently. It's a platform from Spain.

                                          https://www.digitalsamba.com/

                                          They have a free version. I hope it fits your needs.

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