Well, this is unfortunate.
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@arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries
and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)
@caitp to be honest, I don't think there is a solution for streaming of video to huge groups of people (ex. twitch-like)
but if it is just a meeting with a few people maybe some p2p calls like using webrtc could work, it would be all end-to-end encrypted and without needing to trust any company and also near zero server costs for them
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@JakeKb @Gina If you have 75 or less video call attendees then Signal can be your E2EE video-call choice.
https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360052977792-Group-Calling-Voice-or-Video
@regendans @JakeKb @Gina
Signal works for those who have a cell phone only I believe.I use @hostpoint and KMeet from Infomaniak for individual video calls (ex. My Mom).
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/
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@Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/
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@Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this
@danvolchek no idea.
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@Gina Ever since their CEO's position a few years ago it has been clear Proton is not really aligned with consumers' interests.
I'm glad things like these are coming to the light._Miguel Yes, their CEO's behaviour has been a significant red flag, and I think we're going to continue finding out that they've been lying for years as they've moved to comply in advance on this wave of anti-privacy bills being tossed around the world.
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@Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue
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@dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):
ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!
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@Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue
Tell us more about these "feds" that break the encryption the linked article says is perfectly fine.
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/
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@Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?
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I need to get off their email. I assume the feds get everything anywhere, but I read Proton's now using my inbox to train AI. No thanks. Do you have any recommendations?
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@regendans @JakeKb @Gina
Signal works for those who have a cell phone only I believe.I use @hostpoint and KMeet from Infomaniak for individual video calls (ex. My Mom).
@bentley_lucas @regendans @JakeKb @Gina @hostpoint Now I believe you can have accounts that are not tied to a phone number.
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@Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this
@danvolchek @Gina I can say with high certainty that those visual 'widgets' on the blog post are AI, they're indeed that 'style of ui' that AI likes to make.
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@bentley_lucas @regendans @JakeKb @Gina @hostpoint Now I believe you can have accounts that are not tied to a phone number.
@Kyebr @bentley_lucas @regendans @JakeKb @Gina @hostpoint (someone please correct me, I would love to be wrong but)
You still need that phone number to set up or (IIRC) log back into an account from scratch on a new device. What changed is that you no longer have to *reveal* that phone number so people can contact you (usernames), and you can disable "people can contact me by phone number". -
Proton don't have access to your inbox. Don't trust everything you read on the Internet.
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@Uair All your email on Proton's servers are stored client side encrypted. They don't have the information needed to decrypt it.
Also, being owned by a Swiss non-profit means they can't lie about what they do or don't do since they would be shut down immediately by European - thus functioning - legal system.
