Well, this is unfortunate.
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Absolutely everyone who has any knowledge about the Swiss legal system and Proton's ownership knows they by definition cannot be a "massive fed honeypot" - which were your words.
"bro"
@troed@swecyb.com @Gina@fosstodon.org Yeah, because no Swiss company has ever turned out to be a front.
Oh wait, Crypto AG. Whoops. How convenient too that Protons entire backend is fully closed source. -
@troed@swecyb.com @privateger@plasmatrap.com @Gina@fosstodon.org i feel like offering an anonymous mail platform and then handing le people's ip addresses is a bit sus.
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@troed@swecyb.com @Gina@fosstodon.org Yeah, because no Swiss company has ever turned out to be a front.
Oh wait, Crypto AG. Whoops. How convenient too that Protons entire backend is fully closed source. -
If we're just throwing out random accusations I guess you're FBI? I mean. Persons have been, before.
@troed@swecyb.com @Gina@fosstodon.org Last I checked I don't offer an email service offering privacy guarantees you cannot possibly keep while being based in a nation that has an MLAT agreement with the US. But I see this is going nowhere, so I guess we'll disagree forever.
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@troed@swecyb.com @privateger@plasmatrap.com @Gina@fosstodon.org i feel like offering an anonymous mail platform and then handing le people's ip addresses is a bit sus.
1) They have never claimed anonymity.
https://proton.me/blog/switzerland
2) Tell me more about how you run a company without obeying the laws in the jurisdiction where you are based. Please go into as many details as you wish.
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@troed@swecyb.com @Gina@fosstodon.org Last I checked I don't offer an email service offering privacy guarantees you cannot possibly keep while being based in a nation that has an MLAT agreement with the US. But I see this is going nowhere, so I guess we'll disagree forever.
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Nah, this is not disagreement. You're simply wrong on the facts and the "massive fed honeypot" statement was incredibly stupid and you got caught out.
Take it as a lessons learned.
@troed@swecyb.com @Gina@fosstodon.org
Uh-huh.
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/
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@Gina @JakeKb where do you host your Jitsi server? Would it maybe be a cloud hosting provider who is also vulnerable to a subpoena? The way I read it is: video relays for P2P by video suck. I know this because I can consider myself lucky if I spin up a Jitsi and have it go without incident. I once tried the FSF Jitsi instance and it was down right broken.
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